@ripguyfawkes, @gottaketchumall, pretty much summed things up. I will just add that since those box breaks that occurred at a $90k evaluation for the box, the price of the individual cards and the packs has already increased substantially since then. Thus I estimate that the value of a box would be well over $100k now.
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Has anyone else noticed a lot of the new record prices were purchased by new members to the community and then being pumped on efour/instagram/fb?
Not calling anyone out (as many are true collectors) but it is concern that if new collector stop joining (slow down) so will the increase in prices - leading to some hard drops in less popular cards that have expotenially grown.
With this said, it is quite a positive with the number of people joining the community at present time. Virbank is nearly at 27k members.
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Hmm, I think it depends on what cards youâre talking about, but if new collectors who bought cards (and not sell them), wonât it just dry up the supply and increase the prices even higher?
Typically my experience, even with less popular cards is that prices usually either go up, or stay flat, that is, if the growth initially was organic. If a few small players were planning to prop up a card by buying dozens upon dozens of copies of the same card and then tries to sell them to get rid of them in the future, then the drops are warranted. However, if itâs simply a huge collection of collectors each buying 1 card each because they want it in their collection, itâs much less likely for a hard drop on the card, regardless of popularity.
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Hey all! Iâm new to the forum and collecting in general. I noticed that Unbroken Bonds booster boxes are selling consistently on eBay for $250+ and even the ETB for as much as $80. Iâm wondering why itâs selling for so much when the set is just slightly over a year old. I know that itâs currently in rotation for the TCG but itâd still be cheaper to either buy singles or the individual packs rather than the whole box at the price itâs currently going for. The only thing I can think of is the hyper rare Charizard & Reshiram, ungraded that card goes for around $200 while PSA 10 has gone between $300-$400. Is the chance of getting that PSA 10 Reshizard whatâs driving the price of the booster box up?
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Itâs kind of interesting to view some search terms on google trends.
pokemonpsa gradingcoronaviruspokemon tcgpokemon cards
psa grading â Beckett Grading Services
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Bingo. thatâs exactly the reason. From my experience with pokemon boxes, boxes will always be higher than the raw value of the most valuable card in the set which in this case is the reshizard.
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Yeah @pichufan, I mean markets are cyclical so a retrace is almost guaranteed. Itâs just to what extent and for how long. I guess people underestimate supply, especially like what you said about Neo Genesis. Modern is a whole different beast, especially cards that are prone to hype and flippers!
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Also interesting to see long-term search trends. I didnât realize how much more popular Pokemon is now than 15 years ago:
Also interesting to see interesting to compare Pokemon:
Sorry Pikachu â Swampert is the new rage. It seems like almost everything Pokemon-related, though, is on an upward trend.
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Tell that to Hidden Fates.
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Just bear in mind the internet only had 745 million users back in 2004. Now it has 4,648 millions (4.6 billion).So the further back you go, then perhaps the sampling pool becomes less consistent over time.The searches on each end have roughly doubled over that duration, whereas the number of internet users has increased by 6.4x over the same time period. If you know what I mean.
But it is interesting. Same goes with the direct pokemon comparisons.
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Actually, that has no effect on it. I looked up their methodology (FAQ about Google Trends data - Trends Help), and they state that: âThe resulting numbers are then scaled on a range of 0 to 100 based on a topicâs proportion to all searches on all topics.â So they arenât looking at the raw number of searches for Pokemon, but the number of searches for âPokemonâ relative to all non-âPokemonâ search queries.
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If itâs proportional data, on one hand many PokĂ©mon collectors who got in around Base set and are now 25-30 may not have had a personal computer in 2004, but itâs definitely cool to see PokĂ©mon looks 3x more searched than in the mid 2000s. The rise in PSA searches is more intriguing to me.
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Hidden fates doesnât have booster boxes
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Booster box equivalent would be 9 tins. That Shiny Zard king of the shiny money
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Theres no ratio tho when you buy 9 tins but theres a pull ratio in boxes
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@ascendedbidoof, Iâve moved your thread to our dedicated market thread. Post questions like that here in the future.
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Yeah the ratio isnât static like a booster box is where you get a certain amount of hits per 36 packs thatâs true. Just stating that not all modern sets have the a higher value for sealed product of a booster box/equivalent compared to the highest valued set card it has. For a booster box comparison Burning shadows is a great one. Box is no where near the price of the raw RR zard.
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@fourthstartcg Thank you for your thankless and unending work to keep this forum readable for us lurkers.
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Anyone think weâll see another Charizard Black Label boom with the Gigantimax Zard like we did with Hidden Fates Zard?
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I think it would be disingenuous to agree with that view, but I donât really want to go there.
But I do agree that pokemon has clearly grown.
The demographics for pokemon have shifted over time from being predominantly children, to both children, teens and adults.
While the tv series has remained largely a recruiting vehicle for the franchise, the franchise as a whole has been very accommodating for all ages. The older generations have been able to enjoy Origins, we have been catered to in being offered collectibles to purchase which typically stretch beyond that of what a 6-14 year old can afford, such as the 24k golden pikachu card and other special items.
Pokemon as a franchise has always been very quick to pivot and adjust to whatever landscape they find themselves in. When they lost the original fans back in the day, they just down-shifted a gear and targetted the next generation below them.
It is. Donât forget though that demand from sporting collectibles have also spiked too and would be reflected here. I imagine PSA is feeling the pressure.
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