@missingno I would say by cracking it he would be letting PSA slide because after it is cracked they wonāt admit grading/authenticating it. It is best left in the case for now.
Was there a follow up response to any of this @fazool ?
I think some really high dpi scans will help show the microscopic smudges highlighted in previous posts. If you need any Iād be willing to scan it for you but Iām in California so Iām not sure how you feel about that.
Given all the information outlined in this thread about stamps, your card still doesnāt fit the build as an authentic WOTC stamp.
This is a very important case study for the future of the hobby and the seriousness in PSA making a mistake. If this was a card with a 7, 6, or even 5 figure value I think PSA would be taking it much more seriously. People get prosecuted for selling fakes in other collectible markets.
What do you have into this card? It sucks and is a bad position to be in. If it was my own and they did this to me, I would surely crack it open and do the rub test all on camera. If it were to rub off I would send them the video and put the ball in their court. (Also of course linking the video here for juicy comments and sharing that link with them). I can understand that can be deemed risky though if it is a fair bit of money for you. Maybe someone here would be more ready to push it if you sold it along to them though they would be sticking their neck out a fair bit.
If it werenāt to wipe off, then you arenāt in too bad of a spot. Simply regrade and resell it. As it stands it would be a tough sell anyways so overall I say the cracking risk is low from the sh*tty spot you sit in now.
Crack it open and attempt to rub the stamp off in one videoā¦if it rubs off, ball is in PSAās court to remedyā¦if it doesnāt, you paid around $40 USD after shipping costs to get the card regraded with the same gradeā¦heck, iād donate a couple bucks to help cover the costs of the latter if it means we get a definitive answer that benefits the entire communityā¦
If you do make a video, put it on YouTube with a clickbait headline āPSA IS GRADING FAKE 1ST EDITION CHARIZARDSā. Then let the views and the ad dollars roll in. The guy who posted the fake Yugioh card video has almost 150k views.
Iām pretty sure PSA will not help you in any way after you crack it. Sure, take video, damage their reputation, but you wonāt find relief from them after cracking it on your own. Iām almost positive itās in their policy somewhere. That was my point. Iād be happy to be proven wrong.
they were adamant that if the case is tampered with in any way all ties with them are completely moot. this is not something I am willing to do.
while the card is in the case I have the value and the guarantee. Iām not someone who makes a ton of money, Iām not just going to throw whatever value I have in that case away. I will send it back to PSA again, or maybe something else can be done, but you will not see me cracking the case
You only have that āguaranteeā if they are willing to admit liability for this. And given we have already seen their response, you know you likely arenāt going to get a single cent from them.
This is such a shitty situation to be in mate, Iām really sorry you have to go through this.
Can I ask, how much $$$ you have invested into this card already?