I think you really need to be a thorn in PSA’s side about this. This is not a mere slip-up if they can’t even recognize an issue while the card is returned for review.
Something like this damages both confidence in the PSA Pokémon card market and PSA’s own reputation. Nobody wins. It’s necessary to rub their nose in the carpet like a dog that peed in the house so they learn to recognize and handle this issue in the future. Don’t let them get away with this.
It sure seems like the representative wasn’t filled in about the issue at all. Don’t be discouraged @fazool Fill him in on all the details you can. As others said ask them to remove the card from the case and examine the stamp. It may need to be lightly scraped with a fingernail to show the signs
Wanted to throw all these in the same place. Here are two additional examples of fake stamps that appear to have “slipped through”:
PSA 9 Venusaur PSA Registry #27646696
www.ebay.com/itm/302406856739
PSA 7 Charizard PSA Registry #27665524
www.ebay.com/itm/322628147507
Fazool’s: PSA 4 Charizard PSA Registry #25787594
Perhaps we should start our own list/ database of the sellers of these cards and the Registry Numbers.
@fazool you should alert PSA to these other ones that @scratchdesk linked above. Surely they will have difficulty getting the cards back if they can at all, but if they are found to be fake they can likely go back and see which two graders certified these as real. Re-training can occur (or training in the first place). PSA would also be able to see who the submitters were and if they are all coming from the sample one or two submitters, they can be ready in the future. Hopefully whoever is stamping them is sending the cards themselves as if they sold them raw then the submissions would be coming from all over and it would be way harder to stop.
I love the shadowless variant and it is such a shame to see people wreck these cards. @pokemonsyndicate just another reason why I really hope we never return to 1st edition stamping. Way too many logistical issues plus having the deal with this garbage. You know that people would be able to perfect it eventually especially if there was a big premium on them.
There’s only one logical solution, PSA must hire @garyis2000 for one million dollar yearly salary to go through all incoming 1st ed. shadowless cards.
To people who are currently messaging PSA about this problem, just keep the pressure on.
That is called a big shot on the foot. How can this be right?
I am sorry @fazool, did you called them?
Well there you have it, PSA are no longer qualified to authenticate cards with 1st edition stamps
they have every piece of information in this thread, including a link to the thread itself at the very bottom with all images displayed clearly and all points made concisely. either it is actually real, or PSA isn’t worth a damn.
They don’t want to take the plunge of paying the difference of the mistake they clearly done and for sure are aware! I am speechless. Credibility is 0
PSA just paid me market value difference on a PSA 9 1st edition charizard that dropped from a 9 to a 7 upon review. The card had a dent and tons of edge wear. I have no idea how it made it past two of their experts and into a 9 case, but they did a great thing in promptly resolving it and putting it in the proper case. I honestly thought it was more of a 6 myself, but 6/7 disagreement is much better than a 6/9 which it was.
The point of that anecdote is that they will stand by their guarantee of grade and authenticity when necessary. In this case they must really think it is real which is concerning for a different reason obviously.
Insane. I know it would be terrible to do, but a video opening the card and rubbing the stamp off and sending that to PSA would be my next move…
I would challenge them to take it out of the case and smudge the stamp if they still think it’s authentic. Only way to really tell. Tell them you’ll even pay for the re-encapsulation charge.
Then it is indeed alarming… Eyes peeled on the stamps when purchasing a card
This is just absurd.
Not to alarm anyone, but does this mean there is the potential for fake stamped cards to be in PSA cases with better positioning?
Just about to go in for a PSA 9 1st Charizard and now I feel sick 
Humans aren’t perfect so theres always a potential for human error, make sure you know what a legit stamp looks like before shelling out that much cash, don’t expect its legit just because it’s in a PSA case.
the problem here is this wasn’t a simple human error slip, they had their graders and the head grader look at it and all say that it was authentic. it’s very possible that there are quite a few fake stamps out there in psa cases
Exactly, I’m not calling this incident human error, its now obvious that PSA doesn’t have the knowledge or experience in Pokemon to tell a fake stamp from a real one, just wanted to get the point through that a card being in a PSA case does not make it authentic, there are many examples of fake yu-gi-oh cards and pokemon cards with fake 1st edition stamps being slabbed by PSA
