Psa grading- penny sleeves or ultra pro for mint wotcs?

@dblast I’m familiar with soft sleeves vs deck protectors. If you want you can read this article I wrote 3 & 1/2 years ago so you can see I’m not unfamiliar. But it seems like you already have your mind set so I’ll let it be at that… Use what you feel comfortable with. I’ll save money and further complication by just using penny sleeves. :+1:

www.elitefourum.com/t/answered-what-are-the-best-sleeves-to-use-for-pokemon-cards/14994/1

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Sat on hold for 35 minutes for you guys, PSA recommends penny sleeves and card savers. Ultra pro sleeves are harder for the graders to remove cards, any damage caused removing the card PSA is not liable for.

(Already knew this but confirmed for the people here who believe they know better than PSA or other veteran members here)

Edit: same goes for if you don’t use a card saver, any damage caused taking out of toploader, screw down case etc. PSA is not liable for damage.

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@ccrntrade , Appreciate the time taken to reach out to PSA. Sounds like a generic answer given to propagate the short answer, that penny sleeves are good and to keep it controlled so they dont get tons of variants

I think a good questions to ask: “has the graders ever encountered plastic themed pokemon sleeves during their tenure as graders? Are they capable or is it more likely to be damaged by graders? How good are these graders, are they speeding through the grading process or delicate process?”

If these graders are not trained to remove cards from deck protectors in 2020, a California Company… They need to learn real soon. Ones that can charge thousands for 1 grading.

You should just call PSA and ask them, you seem to have many questions. The graders will take the cards out of different types of sleeves but they simply recommend penny sleeves. Its not that they are incapable of taking them out, its simply that it is easier to take them out of penny sleeves.

Personally I have never noticed any damage I caused while using penny sleeves and common proper handling. I don’t believe any other type of sleeve will offer any extra protection when sending cards to PSA.

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Thread participants are concerned about grader’s capability and reliability working with ultra pro deck soft sleeves. I have already sent my cards and trust that they can handle the ultra pros that are in there. My call is not warranted as these were not my concerns.

If I was to call and ask “I already sent in my cards in ultra pro sleeves, I’m worried, because I heard PSA is not competent enough for deck protectors, should I re-package?” I imagine they will say it’s fine, don’t worry about it.

Ultra Pro is standard for protection, storage, and transferring cards to them safely. I think they have enough experience, and added pull tabs for them to remove from the card saver I.

TLDR:

OP: Penny or deck sleeve for PSA?
E4: Penny.
OP: Y tho?
E4: Cheapest, best, industry standard.
OP: Deck better, PSA should be able to handle them.
PSA: Penny best, deck may damage, we no cover it.
OP: PSA should be able to handle deck, I use deck, deck best.

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If you’re so confident in your pre-decided answers already, then why make this thread in the first place?

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I already sent the cards with penny sleeves and ultra pro and I have not condescended against graders or others in this thread. I think it will be fine but people are disapproving.

Ultra pro deck sleeves are fine. If one wants to call and ask PSA if a sent order with deck sleeves are fine, someone can.

I mention that Ultra Pro Deck sleeves are fantastic for protecting cards from binder, packaging and shipping. Others are suggesting graders are appalled to see ultra pro deck sleeves (very alien to them) and results in higher chances of them ruining the card during grading.

Provide more substance in your posts, it’s irrelevant.

Opinion confirmation.

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I have not seen the statistics that prove penny sleeves are superior, and am open to opinions. It’s as if people believe Ultra Pro sleeves are superior, but they dont use it for grading.

Many of thread posts seem to have a bias and suggesting theirs is superior method, without evidence but more hearsay.

You should first provide “evidence and statistics” that your opinion is superior and true. Maybe if we’re lucky we can even get some grant funding to do some real “research”.

Why do people so often confuse the burden of proof? You are doing the same exact thing except in the minority and counter to the recommendations of PSA who you are submitting to.

PSA themselves have deemed penny sleeves the preferred method. Nearly everyone in here is telling you penny sleeves are the preferred and industry standard method. Therefore it would be on you to provide evidence to the contrary. But nobody is asking for it, myself included, because we don’t care. We simply answered your question and gave some reasons as to why. Again… all aligning with industry standards and recommendations from PSA who you send your cards to.

I don’t care if you use deck sleeves. I don’t care if you use penny sleeves. Hell wrap them in saran wrap I don’t give a shit, but if you ask me between deck sleeves and penny sleeves I’ll say penny sleeves like most everyone else here.

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Topics to never discuss in the workplace: religion, politics, and after reading through this thread, “what card sleeves do you use to send to PSA?” has been added to my list. XD

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Can we close this thread now lol

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This thread has run its course, all possible debate has been exhausted, and the OP’s question was answered clearly. The only possible remaining option for this thread is argument.