The pop is only so ‘low’ for this card because they’ve only recently started designating errors on labels. That 8 pop is just how many have been submitted in the last 6 months or so. There are potentially hundreds of copies (across all grades) in the regular unlimited pop report that are the corrected version just waiting to be cracked and resubmitted.
Sure it may be rarer, but no-one knows exactly how much rarer so its hard to make a judgement call or a comparison to the 1st ed version.
I agree with this statement:
‘It can be the best card in the world and communitys all time favorite but if they hand them out with happy meals in the millions the card has no value’
But also the reverse is true. A card can be rarer than others, but if not enough people actually care about the difference, the price won’t reflect the true rarity. Moonbreon with its 1 million copies or more is more expensive than some niche japanese promos with 500 copies. Rarity isn’t everything, it is one pillar that props up a price.
Thats not true
The designation has been there now for years. There was a push to accomplish this all the way back in 2017 and it didnt take long for psa to acknowledge. There are corrected blaines with 4xxxx certs
Go find me a psa 10 blaines corrected
There is 1 single card on the entire market right now. Just one
Its low pop period. Its was not corrected until the very final print run of gym challenge. The larger prints of unlimited are errors.
There are 157 of error zard unlimited. And these were the “large” runs
Corrected will always be a small fraction of this number. Designation or not
And if you do find a blaines corrected out of a pack? Good luck getting PSA to give it a 10…
This card will ALWAYS be low pop
Ten years from now if we looked at pop report we would still be staring at tiny number
This question might feel a little more personal but I think it helps to frame. Do you like this card for what it is, or do you just like the perceived value? Having been on efour for many years now I can’t say that I’ve found too many people who cared much about the corrected vs uncorrected. If they loved Charizard, or Blaine, or gym series, that’s different.
If you like it for the perceived value, that I can understand because there is also a power component to it, since psa 10 owners can control that market with such a low pop and don’t HAVE to sell unless they want to. The downside of that is whether or not people want to pay those prices.
Many low pop cards over the last few years had ridiculously high sales once or twice and now are down 50-70%. Their pops haven’t moved too much either.
I actually can vouch for that. I have quite a few double digit or less psa 10s and ones like my gencon are under like 15 total graded but i know almost nobody would pay what i did, i just really like em
10k still seems high to me for this card but I’d be curious to know how much you pay if you do find a seller!
I will add that I understand the PSA 10 low pop price squeeze, certain early Corocoro promos are a good example of the PSA 9 vs PSA 10 prices being insane in price difference
I like it personally because blaines is a top 10 zard card for me. And possibly Top 6
But im a charizard collector. There comes a point when you start looking for rarer cards
I have a decently large zard collection, but there is a thrill to finding rarer and more collectible zard cards
So i have cards like 1st edition shadowless charmander grey stamp psa 9 and im resubmitting as i think it can get a 10
I have black dot charizard as well, also in a high grade. Its very collectible.
I have acquired my best to date stormfront and base zard and if you followed the grading thread i posted a psa 10 blastoise from the same box and im really hopeful to get 10s on both base and storm, i want the high certs
I have gold star zard of course as well as shiny zard. These are 2 of my all time favs cards ever. I have 1st ed dark zard, secret wonders holo with holo bleed, crystal gaurdians reverse holo stamped charizard
Today i find out whether psa 10s my LC reverse charizard… im very optimistic (extremely low pop) many many more actually . I wanted to make a thread and share all the cards with community but it might come off as “show-offy” so i decided not to do it but if ppl are interested i will make a thread once psa sends me back some that are grading
So you can maybe understand why a classic and rare wotc variant sparks my interest!
It would be amazing to add to the collection and i can say now THIS is a collection
Make the collection thread! We love seeing people show off their collections and the things that they’re interested in. Don’t feel intimidated, I’m sure a lot of us, myself included, would love to see it.
Would you like my incomplete holo error Charizard? To my knowledge, it has a pop of 1. Nobody owns a PSA 9 copy but me. It can be yours for $30,000. Then you can say now THIS is a collection!
I like to collect psa recognizable variants if the asking price is 5 figures unfortunately as there is a lot of risk there
Currently my biggest project is to upgrade my gold star fresh cert psa 7
I want a psa 10
I was looking to trade mostly since its an upgrade path. I was thinking gold star gyrados + the psa 7 zard for a psa 10 zard.
There would be a small cash difference i would still owe but if i threw in something like my fresh psa 10 base blastoise , value would be equal
Since i live in illinois i will he at collectacon in October
Want to see what the vendors say
That statement is so far from being true. Just because a 4xxx cert has a designation, doesn’t mean it was graded with that designation back then. When you re-holder a card with the updated or new label, you retain your old cert number. There are probably even some 1xxx and 2xxx cert cards that show that designation as well, but that does not mean that PSA has been recognizing it since the early 2010s.
Just pointing out that that reddit post has nothing to do with the corrected version being graded or it being listed as corrected by psa, and only has 4 of the 10 comments saying corrected version is rarer.
Not common and rare are different things. This may be one of the rarest commonly recognized WOTC charizards, but it is still a mass produced card. Rarity is relative.
But the semantics aren’t really useful. I think we can at least all agree it’s rare enough to pose a challenge to acquire.
The reason I did the analysis earlier is to show that the value is entirely derived from the label and not some big organic interest in this card. Using Neo Genesis Lugia as an example demonstrates the risks here perfectly. When the label premium detaches from the fundamental desirability of the card, you are opening yourself to a lot of risk.
Of course, all this said it’s currently a pop 8 card and a Charizard so a 5 figure valuation is reasonable. And if it’s a must-have then that’s what you’ll have to pay today. I just think the overall message most people are trying to convey is that you should be cautious and know the risks of buying this. For example, if you pay $18k for a copy, I believe you should be psychologically prepared for it to one day potentially become 8k. Not that it’s a guarantee at all, but I think that is within the realm of possibility
And with stuff like this you’d need a lot of people to not only care about the error but care enough to spend thousands of dollars. And at this point if this level of Charizard error interests you, you likely already have this card in the grade you want
psa 10 zard.
