Hi! Me again, wanting to triplecheck something with my new best friends.
What would be a fair price for:
Umbreon - 161/S-P JP Promo Graded 10 Gem Mint UCG?
I can get this beauty for 30eu. I don’t really care for slabs/graded cards, but you know. Gympromo + Umbreon + Japanese. = need.
(And what exactly is the difference between e.g PSA and UCG? When i google the same card, with PSA 10, the price is like 5 x times higher the a UCG 10?)
Its around $10 raw. I don’t care for plastic encasing either
Ah yes so 30-eu ish would be reasonable for a grade 10?
Just checking because (i thought) i saw psa 10 for 180eu.
I was like “oh no, a too cheap to be true-card again?” But luckily it isn’t?
In my opinion, that grading company adds $0 value to the card
If you don’t care for the slab, it’s like @eeveeteam said, about $10. Here a listing in Japan: Item title- ZenMarket.jp - Japan Shopping & Proxy Service
UCG costs €15 per card to grade, but if you don’t care for it, paying extra for it doesn’t really make sense. Comparing PSA to franks’ garage grading service is a whole different can of worms to get into. People generally put trust into the grade PSA provides, but not so much into frank’s garage crew’s grade.
aaah i see! Because it’s not well known enough?
I crack any slab I get, so the card can fit in my binder :]
So if you are just looking for the card, just buy it raw
There are some exceptions, but if it isn’t graded by PSA, BGS, nor CGC, it’s best to just count it as a raw card of the same quality in terms of value. 
Greetz,
Quuador
Makes so much sense! Havent heard from this company yet.
Then i’ll just go for a raw copy 
Thank you!
Yes, i think thats the plan for now!
I also have a espeon deoxys tagteam slab, got it in a little lot, its a 6, but I think it will look better in a binder!
(…if i finally have a way to sort them in one that is, hah)
Learning new things everyday, makes sense indeed!
If you don’t care about it being 10-worthy I can just send you a copy in a pwe
not really! well, i mean nm/m would be great, but it doesnt have to be a slab
I have a few copies which I can spare as well and it should be local shipment. I am a binder collector but I have pretty clean copies.
Cheers!
Amazing! I miiiight can get one already, but If not, or if i want another one, i know where to find ya! Thanks!
