Pinn033's vintage pokédex collection

Hello and welcome to my collection thread. Enjoy! :slight_smile:

(Here’s some fitting music to listen to while your reading because reading the entire thread can take up to 30 minutes) :smiley:

Let’s get started shall we!

Added a picture of my three portfolio with vintage cards and in the center is my pokédex collection binder which is my main collection.

how I do my version of the Pokédex collection:
A different name for my Pokédex could be “the one of each collection” because I try to get one of everything I learned in the Pokédex. This is information like what sets exist and in what language. Also info like how and where the cards are made to what errors exist. To do this I need to choose certain Pokémon to be the card from a specific set so I can have the information that I want to have in the collection. I try to choose cards with my favorite artwork but that is not always possible and it does bring tough choices with it but that is one of the things I like about it. So basically it is a giant puzzle with allot of information in it. :smiley:

my TCG history:

Summary

I loved collecting and trading cards with my friends when I was a kid but I didn’t have the money to try and complete sets. Now that I think about it, collecting sets never crossed my mind even then. I did however had the idea to collect the Pokédex an try to get as much holos in it as possible but I did not get very far though. When the hype for collecting went down here in Europe my few cards eventually ended up in the attic and a bunch even got sold to buy my game boy advance if I remember correctly. Fast forward to 2015 and that’s when I found my remainder of cards in the attic, I was overjoyed and felt the need to continue on my quest to complete the Pokédex. I bought around 10 holos or something and I remember thinking that this was way to expensive for my budget and I had to stop collecting again. (Heh, if I had known then what I know now. :sweat_smile:) And so we arrive at the 2020 lockdown, a friend of mine got into collecting cards again and he gave me that spark that would make me complete my Pokédex and turn it into the monster/ beauty it is today.

my motivation:

Summary

From the beginning I knew that I wanted fewer cards that hold more value instead of thousands of cards with the same total value because I don’t see myself holding onto boxes full of cards for a long time but three or four binders shouldn’t be a problem. My main reason for collecting now is that nostalgia of the early days that gave me so much good memory’s and also the fun of collecting I guess, sometimes I think not much explanation is needed to enjoy something. :slight_smile: While researching I learned that Belgium printed allot of cards witch created my interest for the printing process and printing locations and I hope to one day recognize Belgium printed cards. Because I collect the Pokédex in the way that I do I started to see allot of differences in the cards. This was a big drive force for me because I kept finding new things and I’m sure I’m not even halfway there. I also think that the reason I like searching for these very small differences in the cards is mainly because there are just so many to find. In the first sets a lot of changes/ mistakes where made and because these variations are there to find I enjoy looking for them.

how I choose cards:

Summary

First of all I wanted to say that I buy damaged cards because it is not possible for me to buy all these cards in near mint condition because of my budget. So The more I learned what cards are out there while starting up this Pokédex project my vision for where to go started to get shape. The idea is that everything I learned I want to be able to show of in this one Pokédex. This means that I have to compile a list of everything that I know and then choose certain cards to represent certain info. this can mean one of each set and one of each language but also things like error cards that hold info on how these cards where made and certain variations that proof printing locations. This means that the cards in the dex can be changed as long as the info it holds stays in the binder through another card and this way I try to search for what cards I like the most and then see what info it holds and how I can use it. this also means that sometimes I have some though decisions to make because I have to choose one card for the binder even though I like multiples of certain Pokémon. Most of the time I then choose the card that holds the most information value and the others I had to choose from I put in my side collection binder so that I can have them both but the info that is important is in the dex.

card knowledge:

Summary

Most of the research I have done I have been writing down because I am a forgetful person and also because I feel that the knowledge of the cards is equally important as the cards themselves. If for some reason I have to store my cards away for a long time, I by then will have forgotten all the information on the cards that I have collected but with my research that stays with my cards all the time it would be easy to remember and pick up on my collection. I also have some bonsai and other small collections but with bonsai the main idea is that you make the trees to later pass them on to your grandchildren and I do like that idea, that they get to start with something that already has great age. so if I pass my card collection on to my grandchildren that research must come with it because without that they won’t understand what is out there, what is interesting and why certain cards can be valuable. only time will tell if this actually will happen but the idea is that this information on the cards is so important that without it these cards mean nothing to most people.

moving forward:

Summary

the idea is that this collection can never be completed and that it is meant to be collected for over an entire lifetime. this mainly comes from the upgrading system that I use witch is like a certain card can hold important info but it is possible to find a variant that holds even more info and those cards I see as an upgrade. I do have some collecting goals for the future but I don’t really know yet where I will go because over time my ideas or perspective on things can change. When I started the Pokédex I didn’t know much but the more I researched the more I envisioned where I wanted to go so because I still have allot to learn I think my ideas for the future of my Pokédex will change multiple times down the line. but that is a good thing because like my side collections it is all a bit of trial and error on finding out what I do and don’t like.

enjoying my collection

Summary

One of the reasons I went this in depth with my research is because I do like searching for all this information and finding proof of certain ideas is even more rewarding. Sometimes I do feel like a detective figuring out every aspect of the cards and how they came to be and that is really fun to me. And when I learned of certain differences and then hunted for that card it gets allot of sentimental value I think because every time I see that card I remember the journey I have done to find it. Also, I write down my purchases and because of that I know for every one of my cards who I bought it from and that also adds allot of sentimental value to it witch I feel is very important. I read a topic on the forum on being fulfilled with your collection and sentimental value really is important in my eyes. Because of it I truly love my collection and am thankful for everyone who helped me in any way. :heart:

Wow owkey, that is allot of text but I wanted to share my drive for collecting and also how my Pokédex came to be because it is a very big journey and that journey helps shape the collection to what it is today.

Pokédex main collecting goals:
-as many holos as possible
-one of each holo type
-one of each reverse holo type
-as much 1st edition stamps as possible
-one of each 1st edit stamp type + error type
-one of each set symbol
-one of each rarity symbol type
-one of each language
-one of each promo type
-one of each printing location
-one of each error type
-…

Pokédex side quest ideas:
-proof certain cards come from theme decks
-proof certain cards are BE printed
-make a timeline through card info
-proof printing process through card info
-have more swirls than cards in the pokédex
-have more errors than cards in the pokédex
-…

binder pages Pokédex generation 1

list of info attained in gen 1
-62 holos (3 types)
-13 reverse holo (3 types)
-13 1st edition stamps (2 type + 4 error types)
-5 rarity symbol types
-10 languages
-13 promo types
-5 printing locations
-13 error types

binder pages Pokédex generation 2

list of info attained in gen 2
-44 holos (2 types)
-13 reverse holos (4 types)
-23 1st edition stamps (2 type + 1 error type)
-4 types of rarity symbols
-6 languages
-9 promo types
-3 print locations
-2 error types

binder pages Pokédex generation 2 Unowns

list of info attained for Unowns
-6 1st edition stamps
-3 sets
-3 rarity types
-5 languages
-3 promo types
-3 print locations
-2 error types

summary of my total Pokédex info
-work
-in
-progress
-:slight_smile:


my entire Pokémon cards collection:
My entire collection is 4 binders large and may not grow larger because the idea is to upgrade and not expand.


(picture of my entire collection aside from a stack of loose cards)

-My red portfolio holds my main collection. The vintage Pokédex, I call it the “ultimate information Pokédex” or that’s what I’m trying to do at least. :grin: Behind that I had enough room for my grass energy collection. The front page of the portfolio is showing card backsides and the back page Pokédex trainer cards.


(red portfolio front and back page mini collections in 8 languages)


(grass energy collection) yep that’s me :grin:

-My green portfolio holds my side collections like starter Pokémon + Pikachu, promos around the world, changed/ corrected cards and error cards. The front page shows professor Oak trainers and the back page ruin wall trainers.


(green portfolio front and back page mini collections in 8 languages)


(Bulbasaur and Ivysaur collections)


(Charmander and Charmeleon collections)


(Squirtle and Wartortle collections)


(stage 3 starters and Pikachu collection)

-My black portfolio is at the moment filled with random cards in order of energy types. I use it as some sort of support for my Pokédex collection and also to have cards available for research purposes. The front page has Poké ball trainers and the back page shows mysterious fossil trainers.


(black portfolio front and back page mini collections in 8 languages)

-My red ring binderIn the beginning I also started making a modern Pokédex collection but unfortunately I had to stop collecting for it because my budget isn’t high enough to collect both modern and vintage. The intention was to do it in the same way like I do the vintage Pokédex and I could continue on this in the future but right now it’s on hold.

Thanks for watching the main post of my Pokémon cards collection. :heart: At first I wanted to make this thread for my Pokédex only but later on I decided to showcase my entire collection here. Please let me know if you liked it or not. all opinions, ideas and input are welcome because everyone has a different way of viewing things and that’s the beauty of it. :slight_smile:


(picture of the research I have done so far and my trusty loupe)

other collections
Because I’m a collector of heart I cannot resist showing you all my other small collections. They are less worth then my pokémon cards but they are equally as important to me. ^^

Thanks again for watching!
(thread is still a work in progress) :smiley:

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1st batch of pictures! :smiley: Now that I have a new phone I intend to make new pictures of my cards but this is a slow process so I will post these in separate posts. There will also be some cards mixed in that are from my side collection because I probably will not make a second thread for my side collections. Enjoy! :smiley:

Ho-oh (artwork white layer “error” or double holo?)

Houndoom (artwork white layer “error” or triple holo?)

Feraligatr (well placed holo pattern, 2 partial globes + “print line”)

JP ancient Mew (Nintedo text error variant + 2 “print lines”)

Ancient Mew (well placed holo pattern, 4 swirls partially visible)

Dragonite

Scyther (well placed holo pattern, swirl) He’s doing magic, I’m sure :laughing:

Scyther (well placed holo pattern, globe + “print line”) Holding his Poké ball :wink:

My Scyther cards so far

My textured holos so far

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This is such a cool way to do a binder!

I am stealing your idea.

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Brilliant

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I love this, it’s like going back to the early years of the TCG, because I collected exactly in the same way: I had a binder for the hot cards (holo, playable…), then the duplicates and a third binder was the pokedex one, full of cards until Neo. When I found my binders around two years ago… yep, it looks so much like this :smiley:

Btw, regarding a Pokedex-binder, does someone know if there is holo cards for at least the first 151 Gen 1 pokemon? I mean, not holo reverse, but holo foil on the drawing.

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Really like the fresh take on pokedex binders! I’m also biased as I default my binders to pokedex order! Is each card your favorite art of the pokemon?

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Your Dark Arbok is a holo shift!

That first binder page is awesome! Nothing is more nostalgic than seeing the big 3 and their evolutions in the first page. I appreciate the mix of English and Japanese as well.

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Do you mean vintage holos only? I think the maximum ammount of holos that is possible in the pokedex is around 125 holos.

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Seems i did not mention how i make my choices yet. I try to go for favorite artworks but somethimes i need to make decisions with research information in mind. Allot more info will be added to the thread and then this will be more clear. :sweat_smile:

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or modern, but from Gen 1 pokemon. 125 its a huge number anyway, I expected less!

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Is muk reaching for the booty here or not?

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Grimer appears to be looking up the girl’s skirt in the Japanese printing. It was deemed inappropriate and swiftly changed for the English Team Rocket printing (look at the pupil placement).

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Ow sorry i meant around 125 holos for gen1 + gen2 so it’s allot less for gen1 only. :sweat_smile:

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2nd batch of pictures! :smiley:

I also updated some of the text up top but I ended up adding to it. Hah I do intend to make it smaller but it seems that will take some time.

I also added my first batch of pictures and now the second with many more to come. It’s possible I do update some pictures because I’m not that happy with the looks on some of them yet. I also added info for each picture on what it is.

Every time I add new pictures I will also add if something else was updated in the thread.
Enjoy! :smile:

Wartortle (evolution box error)

Butterfree (1st edition stamp printer hickey obstruction on the black layer + tiny water spill obstruction on the yellow layer on top of the card)

Shining Mew (only glitter foil I have so far)

Flareon (additional magenta? ink error in artwork + white layer error or minor holo bleed)

My 4 USA crimps so far

Gyarados (well placed holo pattern, swirl)

I got the idea to make a small comic with my Gyarados so it seems like its attack is moving or something. Let me know what you guys think. :slightly_smiling_face:

Edit: I added some details from cards in this post + a picture of my second d-edition butterfree stamp because there are some small differences in the printer hickey.

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Wartortle error is one of the top error cards! :turtle:

Also love the Gyarados swirl! I like seeing all the potential placements for swirls. It adds another layer to the card!

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3rd batch of pictures added. :heart:
Seems like some of these where already spotted. :smiley:

Arbok (shifted white layer or holo shift)

Jynx (changed skin color in artwork for Wotc release)
Grimer (changed eyes in artwork for Wotc release)

JP pervy Grimer (printer hickey obstruction on yellow layer on bottom of card)

Krabby (additional black ink error on center of the card)

Cloyster (low on magenta ink error)

JP Quilava (corrected both attacks text variation)

Mr. Mime (changed pokémon power text color to blue during unlimited print)

Pinsir (scratch error machine damage)

Some of my different 1st edition stamps so far

Italian Unown N (water spill error on yellow border layer)

Gen 2 starters promos (golden set symbol stamp)

That’s it for today, I’ll get to work and make some more pictures. To be continued :smiley:

Edit: I added some details from cards in this post.

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This is so neat! I would have never thought to look for cards that have different coloring due to low ink layers. Do you know if CGC recognizes these types of errors/variations?

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Don’t know, sry. ^^ i have seen cards like my cloyster on the FB misprint page before but i think they weren’t graded. I do believe they have a label missing ink or something like that but if they would recognize low ink values, don’t know that. I heard it’s most common in the fossil set to have these differences but i actually seen a bunch of differences in many other sets as well. I will try to find examples of this and add it to my dex because i call it the ultimate information pokedex afterall. :smile:

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Don’t know how i can draw conclusions from this just yet but i do love taking these sorts of pictures with my loupe. :smiley: And it’s always fun when i do figure out certain stuff.

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They do, I saw a few modern cards with the error notified on the label, like this one posted by @qwachansey on Reedit


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4th batch of pictures already :smile:

I assume most people know that with Japanese evolved Pokémon for base, jungle and fossil set the holo foil overlaps the evolution box but did you know that they did a quick fix for it with rocket and gym sets. For evolved Pokémon in those sets they made the artwork box smaller to fix the overlapping foil problem. That’s why I try to avoid holos for those sets in Japanese because of the smaller artwork box.

For Ninetales, Mewtwo and Zapdos they removed the black colors in the artwork background during the unlimited print run.

For Charizard, Gyarados and Alakazam they removed the black colors in the artwork background with the 4th print run (1999-2000 copyright date) Don’t think you can find the variants in unlimited like Ninetales, Mewtwo and Zapdos.

Exeggcute (programming mistake with the white layer centering for energy symbols and the corrected version which they actually only removed the white layer for those two energy symbols)

Chansey (additional black ink in center of card)

Two of my Chansey (one has the black ink dot and the other has thicker cardstock witch I think lead to allot more ink being applied to the card + bold text)

Bold text appears in allot of sets, some do have ticker cardstock but others I don’t know yet. (research in progress :sweat_smile:)

Poliwrath (additional Cyan ink dot in artwork)

Haunter (cyan ink smear + minor white layer shift or holo shift) this was my first cool error card. :slightly_smiling_face:

Clefable, prerelease stamped (double stamp error with only second stamp to have the green foil)

Vileplume (shifted white layer error or holo shift) one of my luckiest error finds and it almost had 4 swirls visible. :laughing:

Magmar (additional black ink error on it’s name)

Ancient Mew (well placed holo pattern, four globes)

Kabutops (well placed holo pattern, swirl + minor white layer shift or holo shift)

Togetic (double swirl because of overlapping holo foil) I do collect damaged cards if you havn’t noticed but this one is in a terrible condition, even for me. :laughing:

Octillery (well placed holo pattern, 2 partial swirls)

This is the update for now, more to come later on.
This post shows what I like about the cards very well witch is changed cards, corrected cards, error cards, printing inconsistencies, holo placement and much more. It’s a challenge to get this info in my Pokédex but I do enjoy figuring all this stuff out. :slightly_smiling_face:

Edit: I added some details from cards in this post.


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