Looking at sales data there just isn’t much to go off of except numbered sales. But how do you compare them to each other? There are fifty total of PSA 9 and 10 numbered blue back charizards (21 10s and 29 9s). There are eight 9s and zero 10s for the numberless. But it seems with sales volume being so nonexistent, and topsun being so niche, numberless cards value if listed today may not reflect their rarity very well.
Someone swooped up a numberless PSA 9 in 2018 for just over a thousand. But numbered 9s have gone for similar prices since then.
A numbered PSA 10 sold for $4,275 last week [edit: actually 3,053 via best offer sorry] The only sale I see before that is $1,714 september of 2019.
I have to wonder; if a numberless 9 were listed today, would it sell for more than that numbered 10?
Of course I think it should, but just because I think it should doesn’t mean it would or that others would think it should. Do you think it could? Lend me your opinions and make it gould.
Edit: also i can only imagine how much a numberless 10 would go for if someone graded one.
I’d say a numberless 9 will still go lower than a numbered 10. 9s stuck around ~$1200 for awhile while 10s were around ~$1700 in 2019. Based on that I’d figure it should come close but not exceed it. But still, I could be wrong as there’s no way to tell. Numberless does have lower pop but it all comes to demand in the end.
I got mine for like $100 last year, but it’s def not gonna get a psa 10. The centering on those cards is abysmal, and it’s so old that there is natural decay/fading setting in on the backs of a lot of them that weren’t kept in complete darkness/properly protected. I don’t see those pop reports climbing any time soon, which makes sales/modern pricing kinda speculative.
Sold listings on ebay. On one hand you could say thats a one off on the other hand you could say its not an unsimilar price increase to other expensive cards right now. I mean nothing else exists that is 1995 charizard. And the rarity and difficulty in grading definitely helps.
As for the numbered numberless I pretty much agree for now that the numberless 9s wont outprice a numbered 10. I suppose the reality ive come to accept is that you can think of numberless as similar to 1st edition and you wont really be wrong in doing so, but the world would much rather have a stamp than a lack of a number. But rarity still has its say in the matter and the POP does speak for itself, i just think maybe its too niche for the time being. Ultimately in 20 years time something like this could be viewed with more prestige as the historical piece it is.
You can use watchcount.com or flippertools.com to check it. I checked and the recent one got sold in 4 minutes… the seller just took the first offer. Perhaps it could’ve went higher.
These are very tough to price, the market is moving a lot right now even for very established cards with relatively lots of sales data so for these niche low pop cards it becomes almost impossible to determine whatever fair market value would be. I am a big collector and a fan of these types of cards and although they are definitely gaining in popularity, with more and more sales data, in the recent pwcc auctions these Topsun and also the carddass cards really have moved up in value a lot, it will likely be a while till I would feel confident in pricing any of them including the charizard.
I don’t personally value the numberless ones that much, but I also didn’t really like the no rarity on Japanese base set which has become well established at this point as considerably more valuable than the regula Japanese base set cards, so I could see the numberless versions carrying a large premium in the future, but really very difficult to predict how much of a premium.
I’ve been passively looking for one for around 4 years, after personally selling three psa 10s, but only seeing 2 or 3 no-number PSA 9s land on the market. They weren’t very well known until around 2015… but I’d say today they’re easily worth $3000+. There wouldn’t be a reliable estimate above that without referencing a tangible offer though… The buyer pool for those willing to pay that much is extremely small, but as noted there are maybe 10 examples around.