Just focus on not losing money. That means Eevee Heroes and VMAX Climax.
Yeah, at the very most I like collecting certain sets as display pieces , the investment side is for fun to track, I’m not looking for a short ROI, I’m speaking about 10 years down the line.
What’s ridiculous is that there are modern cards that are worth more than that in PSA 10 already despite having like 50x the pop.
Are modern collectors as nostalgic for previous era’s cards?
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Here’s my quick input:
As Scott stated in his first youtube video, collecting inherently is investing. Collect what you’re into because if you like it, there is someone else who does too.
If you like modern, buy modern as more people are into it than vintage. It’s new and there are more eyes. If you love vintage (me), there are typically deeper pockets due to the age difference. Either way, if Pokemon keeps succeeding, you should profit.
The thing I’ve learned most over the last two years is to not look on E4 or any other forum for tips. DYOR and find stuff nobody is talking about. That’s where you find truly underpriced items.
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I’ve always collected what I like first and foremost. I think y’all should too. It makes the whole “investing” process much more tolerable if things do not go according to plan.
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Not many modern collectors are going to buy cards like this, I’d rather have a PSA 10 Moonbreon or 4 evolving skies booster boxes as opposed to a PSA 10 Aerodactyl. Vintage doesn’t always mean better, and to most only popular pokemon are expensive. 95% of the rarest set (Skyridge) can be bought for $200 in near mint or under besides the 2-3 chase cards of the set. Most people would rather have a sealed box of evolving skies over a skyridge holo. I just don’t believe in singles besides the big big WOTC hits.
“Vintage” I do believe in is sealed EX/DP era packs, boxes are too expensive. The amount of base set, fossil and jungle cards is unreal. They printed that stuff too the moon and with reprecrussion, Sure Evolving Skies got reprinted to the moon but the set is more desirable to the next generation of buyers.
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Been doing this for over a decade, always the same argument but now so more than ever, I didn’t care for GX cards at all but SWSH Alt arts are something special.
“Vintage” I do believe in is sealed EX/DP era packs, boxes are too expensive.
How is it possible to believe in packs but not boxes? If anything, the boxes are undervalued compared to the packs – as evidenced by the fact that people regularly pack out WotC/EX boxes for a profit.
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All I disputed is the ‘vintage singles did nothing in 20years’. Maybe moonbreon outperforms a randomly selected wotc holo over the next 10 years, maybe not. But saying vintage holos haven’t moved at all is something I disagree with
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Moonbreon is an outlier. Or rather, taking out the alt arts, do you see any of the others growing?
I think the SWSH era has many times the print run of the SM era, so Vs and VMAX/VSTAR Pokemon are likely much more common and well preserved than even the GXs. Most are under $2 and I don’t think the value is there in the long run either.
You’d think full arts, rainbows and golds would have better prospects but most of those are under $10. There just isn’t enough demand for a CGI full art of most Pokemon or gold items (because no one plays) or rainbows (for everything).
Or maybe the kids of today will actually be nostalgic for these when they grow up having not completed these impossibly huge sets.
I think it’s possible that the perception could change over time as it has with many cards & sets over the years. Personally, those cards really do nothing for me at this moment. At the same time, I also didn’t care much for vintage Kinebuchi cards when I was a kid, but now that I’m an adult I’ve grown to appreciate them more because they’re very distinctive cards from the WOTC-era and unique in their own ways.
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We shall see who is right during our next pump 
Do whatever you want, just understand your banking on the highest printed, best print quality, most preserved, lowest barrier to entry, most talked about, most socially accepted, most mainstream product avalible along with likely hundreds of thousands of other speculators and game stores (every single game store i know now tells me they hoard sealed cases of each product).
You are also depending on future buyers who are currently kids and unclear if pokemon will remain the one nostolgic toy out of the 10 billion other toys and games marketed at them right now and effectively ignoring all of the older collectors who generally have more money and want little to nothing to do with modern.
Not saying it cant go up, i have some modern stuff too. But maybe 5% of what i have is mosern and i consider that mathmatically risky even. Just know that you’re in the penny stocks of pokemon bigtime. Nobody here wants modern to fail, just that what we have been seeing isnt normal and basing an investment strategy on literally anything that happened during a black swan event is not a good idea.
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Found the Pokeinvesting subreddit member
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I do believe in boxes, however DP/EX era boxes are just too rare and expensive, they’ll continue to go up, if they dip maybe I’ll buy one.
It’s the same argument every 5 years. Every single year people say “modern wont go anywhere”, I heard the same logic on old Pokemon forums back in 05, 06.
But you’re right, Evolving Skies will be MSRP in 2032, can’t wait to buy 2021 era boxes for $100 in 10 years.
To be fair, it took 15 years for that modern product to become worthwhile
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But modern didn’t really go anywhere for a long time.
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Its the “ill buy the actual worthwhile stuff as soon as prices go down” logic while also claiming modern will go up that shouts Gigachad to me
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What argument did I even bring up about modern not going anywhere and what did I say about Evolving Skies to warrant this sarcastic response?
I can see why you have a Haunter in your avatar, cuz you’re literally out here arguing against ghosts.
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