LOL im distracted sorry!
I wanted to dive into the nuances of the sketch premium, but decided to TLDR it haha
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It is a crapshoot at best 
I can also price it at $100K or $1M with āor best offerā, and that maybe get $3K as best offer, who knows. Itās an interesting pricing problem with not much confirmed recent sales data to bank on.
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Which it normally is. Outside of PSA 10, condition premium isnāt that large.
Not relevant as they are not sold. Not sure why it matters who has them listed either.
Itās not just the sketch. Itās missing kanji, Pikachu, the modern English presentation and it simply is less bold because of the marker used.
When people think āKen Sugimori autographā they think this:
Not this:
That sentence is true for nearly all Sugimori autos
I donāt think language really matters. The Pokemon matter a lot. The auto itself matters a lot. Condition matters a lot if you can make it say PSA 10
This is not to downplay your card or anything. Itās a really cool item! Just trying to be realistic
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Thereās a lot here to dicuss, so bare with me and know that everything Iām about to say is just my opinion.
When it comes to Ken Sugimoriās autograph there is definitetly a tier list of desirability. Most often, his common/modern day autograph is the one that usually drive in the highest price point. This would be the style in which he writes his name in both english and kanji, and includes a sketch of a Pikachu. Aesthetically, this is the cleanest looking auto he has produced, since he used an actual sharpie for thicker fuller lines and included a sketch with it. So whenever a card like the signed CD Promo Charizard, pops up for sale, Itāll get a crazy premium. The autograph alone doesnāt bring in the high value, as weāve seen when a non holo trainer, with the same style autograph, pops up and goes for $2000.
The reason you saw a non holo Minum and Plusle go for such a high price, is because we rarely ever see him deviate from his Pikachu sketch. With those cards in particular, he sketched the actual Pokemon on the cards, thus resulting in such a premium. In this scenario, doesnāt matter what the card is, the sketch is what is driving the price up so high.
Now, in my opionion, the autograph style you have is what some would consider to be the least desirable. This by no means implies there isnāt value or rarity to it. That autograph comes out of the Super Trainer Showdown event and it appears he used some sort of felt or ball point pen to autograph with. As a result, the ink is thin and he didnāt include a sketch (We have seen some Pikachu sketches come out of that event). Please donāt get me wrong, the card has everything going for it. Charizard card + Ken Sugimori autograph + NM/Mint, are all the right things, but in terms of style of autograph, I would say most would prefer his newer style autograph and would prefer a sketch on it. I still believe you could easily get $3,000, $4,000, $5,000 or heck, maybe even five figures with the right buyer for this particular card, just because of the history and card itās signed on.
With this being his earliest known autograph, there might come a day where none of the factors above matter and people will purely value just that fact alone, regardless of everything else, esspecially for a mint Charizard card thatās signed.
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All excellent points! Thank you. I will probably send it for auction in a year or three and get the real answer like thundermoo did from the actual market. As much as anyone can wish for (like Kanji characters and Pikachu and whatnot), what you get is what you get in an autograph, and live with it.
Also Iāve come to realize, itās dangerous to claim anything is one of one anymore in the Pokemon hobby.
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Great point!
I can consign it for you and we can find out what itās worth! 
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i rarely pipe up on consignment, but given the nature of the auto, this would definitely be worth it for the backing of authenticity
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I think @swolepoke said it best, and I agree with his appraisal of the strengths and weaknesses of the specific card.
My opinion is that a sooner auction may be advantageous for you. There is a lot of money flowing into collectibles right now because of crypto / stock market. Selling into a strong crypto / stock market is worth considering, but make sure that you use a platform that accepts crypto as payment (i.e., PWCC). Strange things can happen when people are flush with cash and are looking to park money.
Regardless of your final decision, congratulations on owning the card and I wish you the best of luck in your future sale.
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Not to be morbid but if weāre being realistic and honest, I guarantee the best time to sell is after Ken Sugimori dies.
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I agree.
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Also if you were selling, Iād ask finecard to make a instagram video for the card/history of the signing.
It might cost a percentage though. Not sure how he goes about these things.
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Love this record. So much opportunity. I really believe that this is great evidence that despite all of the growth in the last few years, signature collecting is still very much in its infancy (maybe this last half decade was the āterrible twosā lol).
There is so much room for growth in how artists platform themselves and develop their own brand around the work that they do.
It will be a very interesting time when we are dealing with hard scarcity on signatures postmortem. Hopefully thatās still a long ways away!
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Fairly high sale off of eBay by a low-feedback seller in Italy. 
8/19/24 - 2004 EX Team Rocket Returns Copycat Reverse Foil - $7,570 (ā¬6,800)
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rip
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