Is this card fake?

I received a message from a buyer saying “It’s a fake!!!” for a shadowless Magmar I sent him/her, before I jump to conclusions about the buyer being a possible scammer can someone confirm if the card or the case is a fake? I believe it to be real. Also the buyer already left positive feedback as well. Has this happened to anyone else?

If they left positive feedback they shouldn’t be able to get a refund

It may be the lighting, but the back of that Magmar doesn’t look right for a WOTC card.

If only

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Did you tell the buyer that he could put the PSA Number 25371434 into PSA website to find out the exact results? It could be lighting conditions as stated by @eyesofmadara ,

Yea all that checks out, was giving the buyer the benefit of the doubt. I believe its just lighting conditions, as well it looks like the buyer is new and has bought a few items in the past month and have left the same “…” (not necessarily a red flag) feedback for everyone, so I message them and see if they received the same “it’s fake” message.

To be fair, you can cut the seam on the PSA case, remove the authentic card, put in a counterfeit, and then seal it back up in there with a genuine PSA case and label and cert.

People have been doing this to MTG cards but I am yet to hear of it happening with pokemon, but there is always someone who does it first right?

It’s also possible the buyer got an authentic card, opened the case, took it out, put his counterfeit in there, and is returning it to the seller.
It is very likely (99%) that the buyer simply has buyers remorse now that the card prices are going down the past couple weeks and wants his money back so he can buy the same card for less from someone else.

Whats the buyer saying that PSA graded a fake card or that the whole slab if a fake? or has been ‘‘craked’’ and the card replaced?

I would ask the buyer why he believes it is a fake?

It’s a shadowless Magmar, not 1st edition card or even a holo. Seems like a lot of effort to fake for a card 6 months ago sold regularly for $30.

If I were to accuse a seller of a fake PSA card, I would definitely go into a lot more detail than ‘‘Fake card!!!’’

Who the hell is faking magmars

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Buyers remorse seems very probable. I did not know Pokemon prices were going down lately. Is the hype dying down? If so, I am going to go on a spending spree.

I would say more buyers remorse. Been alot of quick trigger buyers lately with the FOMO. Biggest thing has been said above… it’s a magmar, not a 1st ed Zard or anything.

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Base Unlimited especially starters has tanked in price (Charizards selling for half of what they were two weeks ago), there have been smaller retraces of other stuff across the board.

Venusaur and Blastoise are down 33%

1st edition Holos didn’t go down to half price but there are some cheap auctions here and there. Prices just aren’t the same as they were on October 22

The rarer stuff has gone down less.

Even modern stuff has gone down a little, XY Evolutions booster boxes are now going for 400-415, RainbowRare Charizard Vmax is going for 415.

Nice @karmaawhoree, time to buy. I think I should let prices fall a bit more till mid November.

Looks real to me captain

I think its either buyers remorse or an outright scam, all the message said was “it’s a fake” and that was it. I was just trying to give the buyer the benefit of the doubt as it’s an older PSA case so just incase I missed anything. Either way I’m going to contact ebay and just give them the heads up.

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A buyer pulled the same “it’s fake” on a PSA 9 Mint Char 4/102 purchase about a year ago. Lesson learned - the guy basically wanted to back out of the purchase, and claiming a product as fake is a 100% full proof and unethical way of getting out of it if bought on eBay, and the seller can do absolutely nothing about it except get mad, which is a big waste of time. eBay will take the buyer’s side 1000/1000 times. This has nothing to do with lighting - just a buyer getting out of the purchase using a loophole provided by eBay. I did get the card back, but on my own dime for shipping charges. Funny - this guy would have made an extra $3500 if he had held it. Oh well.

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That’s crazy, they were peanuts back then too ~$200 ish??
Can see 4,5,6 figure cards potentially falling victim to this sort of practice. But cards well under a grand?
And PSA slabs are engineered to frost up as soon as the plastic shell is cut or so I’ve been told? A tampered slab would be extremely obvious would it not?

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