Does anyone collect/play this new tcg?
What are your thoughts on it?
I just purchased a 1st ed box as Rudy is talking it up.
Sealed alpha booster Boxes on Ebay are over $1000.
Unlimited boxes are on preorder.
Is this purely spec or is the art any good?
Highly speculative with a massive amount staying sealed.
Current estimates are 22k alpha boxes printed.
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Yeah the problem is that itâs not being played, but staying sealed. Technically the same argument youâd make with modern Pokemon these days - people are not playing with their cards unsleeved like base unlimited/shadowless/1st
According to Rudy a lot of the alpha/1st ed boxes were opened and played, as people found its an enjoyable game and word spread, apparently, but he and others did not have the foresight to see the prices skyrocketing.
If Flesh and Blood really takes off (the unlimited sets will be sold worldwide unlike the alpha and 1st edition boxes) the 1st edition and alpha box values will increase further, especially since unlimited will not contain cold foils.
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This game is being playe. the boxes are staying sealed now because why would you spend 1k on a box just for the cards, when a few weeks you can get the same cards for 80 dollars a box on the unlimited run to play the game with?
This is just my opinion but I have been collecting collecting for almost a decade now and I am very wary of any new game that comes out and starts especially strong. I have seen lots of money thrown at these new games and they do survive for 2-3 years very successfully but they then struggle after that. The amount of people that told me in 2013 that Vanguard was gonna be the next Yugioh and that âyou should buy up sealed of the first few setsâ is laughable. I played it for a bit and it was enjoyable but one thing I saw that the big 3 have (Pokemon, Yugioh, MTG) is that young kids come into the stores, buy products and play. I never saw that for the new games. For about 5 years I was at my locals almost weekly playing in various different weekly tournaments and never saw any kids (when I saw this I generalize to under 18) that would come in on their own before knowing any of the other local gamers saying they played X game (Vanguard, Weiss, Force of Will). To me, for a game to be successful in the future, it needs age diversity more than wallet diversity. Money is obviously nice but as the life time of a game goes on, you need younger people entering the game. Especially now when you cant go to locals and play FNM or your other weekly tournaments for the other games, it is hard for me to see growth to a game which is extremely costly to enter and also where product is not easily obtainable. How are people supposed to even know what Flesh and Blood is without watching Rudy? I surely didnt. Growing up I knew what MTG was because it was on the shelves next to the pokemon and Yugioh cards at target. I found out those other new games by others at my locals. I would be wary about spending lots of money on an established game. Obviously I could be wrong and this game takes off and is extremely successful but do keep in mind that there has not been a real long time player in tcg (where after ~10 years) you can get back the value of your cards that you used for your decks. Yugioh is the most recent of the games and that came to the states in 2002! 18 years since the last big game came. I would be wary about the growth of this game, especially in a pandemic.
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I guess because the big cards are worth more than the box.
I agree.
I bought a dinged box at below half price, so the cards will still be pristine.
Not much of a loss if the game fizzles out.
Hopefully it becomes huge.
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Looks like generic western fantasy art.
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Hopefully theyd mix up the art style. Thats what I love about vintage pokemon is one card looking like a mtg style card and the next is play-doh.
You gonna open it / maybe grade it?
I donât know what the EV of the box is but youâd think itâs more than half the cost of a booster box that you paid right?
i saw rudyâs video on it and the price of the base box going to 1k, but thatâs about it? i have no idea if itâs popularâŠand it doesnât seem to differentiate itself from the top dogs of Yugioh, MTG, or PokemonâŠI think itâll always be a niche market.
Yea at this point theres quite the glass ceiling. You have mtg that was the first card game to take off. Pokemon that rode obviously pokemon hype. And yugioh that had a popular tv show where they literally play that same card game. Hard to imagine a card game thats purely a card game and nothing else at this point to reach the height of the top 3.
www.psacard.com/pop/non-sport-cards/2019/flesh-blood-welcome-rathe-booster/176072
Somebody graded a $4 card?
YeahâŠspending any money on the âFlesh and Blood TCGâ is a terrible fucking idea. Investing in Pokemon/Magic (and even more so Yugioh) is already highly speculative and risky. But at least these have enduring popularity and a significant amount of organic demand. F&B has neither and this will almost certainly remain the case. And even if the game does catch on, we have no clue if anyone will care about collecting it. Spending $1k on an âalphaâ booster box of Flesh and Blood is indescribably stupidâŠ
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Everything is a gamble and can only really be evaluated in hindsight.
Buying a bunch of Alpha MTG boxes as an investment in 1993 would have been seen as indescribably stupid, but hey, look at that.
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Thereâs opportunity everywhere.
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This is the way I see it. Iâve been looking at this TCG but it doesnât interest me that much so I wonât buy anything expensive however if someone really likes the TCG Iâd say go for it and buy an original box. Lots of us bought Pokemon cards precovid before this meteoric rise because we genuinely enjoy Pokemon. The people who really made out on Magic are the ones who lived and breathe magic from the very beginning.
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4 months later on Ebay:
Crucible 1st ed. US$900 (almost doubled value).
Monarch 1st ed. pre-order US$350.
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