Fanatics Collect: Sellers Manipulating BINs

It is my opinion that some sellers are trying to take advantage of Fanatics Collect BINs by making fake sales to affect the consignment rate that they will get and the sales history of their item.

For example, someone “bought” this Meiji Ancient Mew for $9,985, despite two copies being available for under $1,500 on Fanatics and eBay.

The card was relisted for, you guessed it, $9,985. But now it has the fake/inflated Card Ladder and Sales History Price.

Because they made this fake sale, they now get a cheaper consignment rate because it’s a “Great Deal” and they can scam other customers into believing the fake sales history.

Another example is this Meli Art Academy Pikachu. It was “sold” twice in a span of three days to manipulate the Card Ladder and Sales History price, and then relisted this week for, you guessed it, $7,500.

If you have seen other examples, please add them below.

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What’s the incentive here?
Person A and B are the same person:
A sells for $10,000, pays fees
B lists for $10,000 at lower consignment rate
Person C buys it, B gets paid. How do they make money? Didn’t they pay fees from A to B already? In theory if no one buys the inflated price fron B, they lose a ton of money in fees

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Nose-wrinkling but not surprising. My default assumption has always been that shilling is the Kola borehole of Pokemon.

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After paying Fanatics their cut (12%), $1,200 in the case of a $10,000 card, they relist with hopes that they’ll sell the card again for many thousands of dollars and recoup their initial scam “investment.”

Now on their second sale, they’ll get 6% back because the card is listed as a “Great Deal.” So even if they sold it at $3,000, they’d get $2,820 ($1,620 profit).

Of course, this only works if they make a strong sale and their cost-basis isn’t enormous. Seeing that many of these are older certs, it’s possible that their cost basis is quite low.

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Wow by the examples you are providing this make sense, anyways It seems like there is always some kind of controversy around fanatics.

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Someone “bought” one of my high grade goldstars at ~3x the price but never paid for it. I think it took like a week or two to be canceled for non-payment but in the meantime it showed up as a sold listing

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This one seems … off to me

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They should remove sold listings that weren’t paid for or relisted by the same seller

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And Card Ladder shouldn’t update from outlier sales so easily without validating them.

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Another one. This one shows a valid price history on Fanatics Collect and is listed in their sold section, suggesting that it was actually paid for. If true, it would be a $5,000 gamble (12% payment to Fanatics Collect) to gain tens of thousands in profit.

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idk how this is supposed to work for the gambler because idk anyone who takes pwcc fixed price sales seriously :rofl: basically like that $2M illustrator sale kenny boy claims is real

reminder that PWCC was banned from ebay for shill bidding.

Can people and companies just leave my poor hobby alone?

Thank you Dyl for pointing this out.

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because the Black border spinning squares variation is more rare than the black border cracked ice version(the cheaper one listed).

There are a several variations of this card.

JUST MAYBE? A smart buyer knows that the more rare one was worth way more even though they are the same grade.

Everything is not as simple as it seems.

Playing advocate of the devil here, but if they buyer pays the 12% fee, shouldn’t that be considered a legitemate sale? Even if they list it higher afterwards, it still sold and the fee was paid. The same could be done on ebay, not sure if the fees are higher there or not though.

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PWCC was banned from ebay for creating a competing marketplace and “shill bidding” was the convenient reason provided. All consignors deal with shill bidding.

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