eBay Garbage

[kingboo64]

@nightsy

@fiery

Just saw the other thread about this and now it’s on eBay. Is this a recent wave of fake slabs being pumped in?

Could you explain why its fake? To me it looks real. I just know to look at the PSA half split holo image and the rectangular plastic case
What about it tells you its fake (apart from font apparently)? Is it just the case or the card too?

Cards fake too, look at that 1st edition stamp

[fiery]

@nightsy

@fiery

Just saw the other thread about this and now it’s on eBay. Is this a recent wave of fake slabs being pumped in?

Could you explain why its fake? To me it looks real. I just know to look at the PSA half split holo image and the rectangular plastic case
What about it tells you its fake (apart from font apparently)? Is it just the case or the card too?

The card is fake (color, border cut, 1st edition stamp, font).
Label font is wrong, QR code is too small.
Slab is really well made, but bottom-right of slab is supposed to have the PSA logo embossed.

What is concerning is how well the slab is made, think about it. If someone grades a 9, cracks the case without damaging the label, puts it into this case with the real label + PSA 6 equivalent real card, many people are going to get fucked over by it.

BGS fakes thread (this one is really well made IMO): www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-bgs-slabs-surfaced/30746/1

[quuador]

@kingboo64

@nightsy

Could you explain why its fake? To me it looks real. I just know to look at the PSA half split holo image and the rectangular plastic case
What about it tells you its fake (apart from font apparently)? Is it just the case or the card too?

Cards fake too, look at that 1st edition stamp

I can tell the PSA font is fake, but how can you tell by the 1st edition stamp besides it being greyish instead of black? I can’t even tell if the stamp states EDITION or something else in this small-ass 500x500 pixels picture with more background than card in addition to that… eBay should forbid auctions without images or small pictures imo, freaking useless…

Greetz,
Quuador

[nightsy]

@fiery

@nightsy

Could you explain why its fake? To me it looks real. I just know to look at the PSA half split holo image and the rectangular plastic case
What about it tells you its fake (apart from font apparently)? Is it just the case or the card too?

The card is fake (color, border cut, 1st edition stamp, font).
Label font is wrong, QR code is too small.
Slab is really well made, but bottom-right of slab is supposed to have the PSA logo embossed.

What is concerning is how well the slab is made, think about it. If someone grades a 9, cracks the case without damaging the label, puts it into this case with the real label + PSA 6 equivalent real card, many people are going to get fucked over by it.

BGS fakes thread (this one is really well made IMO): www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-bgs-slabs-surfaced/30746/1

That is indeed very concerning. I can see the 1st Edition missing on the left label too. The colour difference is apparent here, the case is very similar if you disregard the bottom right logo…

In general, i would NEVER buy ANYTHING from a seller with so little reviews on ebay. Its just too risky. Its probably someone looking to fudge you over, take your money and then abandon the account.

[rescuetoast]

@nightsy

@fiery

The card is fake (color, border cut, 1st edition stamp, font).
Label font is wrong, QR code is too small.
Slab is really well made, but bottom-right of slab is supposed to have the PSA logo embossed.

What is concerning is how well the slab is made, think about it. If someone grades a 9, cracks the case without damaging the label, puts it into this case with the real label + PSA 6 equivalent real card, many people are going to get fucked over by it.

BGS fakes thread (this one is really well made IMO): www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-bgs-slabs-surfaced/30746/1

That is indeed very concerning. I can see the 1st Edition missing on the left label too. The colour difference is apparent here, the case is very similar if you disregard the bottom right logo…

In general, i would NEVER buy ANYTHING from a seller with so little reviews on ebay. Its just too risky. Its probably someone looking to fudge you over, take your money and then abandon the account.

To add to this, I saw this on eBay this morning. Not sure if It’s just off in color a bit or maybe a picture. But I get the feeling it’s fake

[kpod]

@fiery

@nightsy

Could you explain why its fake? To me it looks real. I just know to look at the PSA half split holo image and the rectangular plastic case
What about it tells you its fake (apart from font apparently)? Is it just the case or the card too?

The card is fake (color, border cut, 1st edition stamp, font).
Label font is wrong, QR code is too small.
Slab is really well made, but bottom-right of slab is supposed to have the PSA logo embossed.

What is concerning is how well the slab is made, think about it. If someone grades a 9, cracks the case without damaging the label, puts it into this case with the real label + PSA 6 equivalent real card, many people are going to get fucked over by it.

BGS fakes thread (this one is really well made IMO): www.elitefourum.com/t/fake-bgs-slabs-surfaced/30746/1

Another key giveaway on many of these fake cards, is how poorly the border centering and thickness is. Not just off-centered, but notice how thin the L/R border is? If it were a genuine card, one border could be thin but the opposite side would have to be significantly thicker.

[implode]

Does PSA know about these fake listings too?

[kingboo64]

@quuador

@kingboo64

Cards fake too, look at that 1st edition stamp

I can tell the PSA font is fake, but how can you tell by the 1st edition stamp besides it being greyish instead of black? I can’t even tell if the stamp states EDITION or something else in this small-ass 500x500 pixels picture with more background than card in addition to that… eBay should forbid auctions without images or small pictures imo, freaking useless…

Greetz,
Quuador

Simple: the thickness of the stamp and the font spacing. The resolution on the fake is pretty bad, but here. If you look a little closer, the letters on edition are too thin and spaced out. The 1 is also far too thick for team rocket.

[admiral]

Urgh, back to the old days of covering your cert numbers when showing off your shit

[implode]

I don’t get it. Can’t the scammers just cover the numbers too?

[elshod]

[elshod]

Another one here. This seller listed this as NM/M. His response to me reaching out about the crease - “Hey man. I’m sorry. I’m new to this stuff and sorry but we don’t offer refunds.”

Ok then… return started. Good luck pal.

[pikachutcg]

@fiery

@nightsy

Could you explain why its fake? To me it looks real. I just know to look at the PSA half split holo image and the rectangular plastic case
What about it tells you its fake (apart from font apparently)? Is it just the case or the card too?

Slab is really well made, but bottom-right of slab is supposed to have the PSA logo embossed.

What is concerning is how well the slab is made, think about it. If someone grades a 9, cracks the case without damaging the label, puts it into this case with the real label + PSA 6 equivalent real card, many people are going to get fucked over by it.

I was thinking this when you posted the old cert label replicas the other day from etsy, so far i have not seen one of these replica cases with the logo on the bottom right though, once that is there it’s gonna be pretty bad if people start slabbing genuine cards in a lower grade as 10’s.

[pikachutcg]

@implode

I don’t get it. Can’t the scammers just cover the numbers too?

For a scammer to fake a psa label they would need to know the cert number, covering yours (as well as the barcode/QRcode) will stop the scammer from being able to clone yours.

[fiery]

@pikachutcg

@fiery

Slab is really well made, but bottom-right of slab is supposed to have the PSA logo embossed.

What is concerning is how well the slab is made, think about it. If someone grades a 9, cracks the case without damaging the label, puts it into this case with the real label + PSA 6 equivalent real card, many people are going to get fucked over by it.

I was thinking this when you posted the old cert label replicas the other day from etsy, so far i have not seen one of these replica cases with the logo on the bottom right though, once that is there it’s gonna be pretty bad if people start slabbing genuine cards in a lower grade as 10’s.

Yeah, people are talking about how the fakes aren’t good enough & I agree, but honestly those things doesn’t matter when the case itself gets replicated. They used to look crazy off with punch holes and all but now it’s getting pretty close.

My first thought when I saw this is that scammers could easily throw in a real clean card, maybe with a micro-indent into the slab and pass it off as a 10.

Anyways, after another close inspection there are other differences for sure (aside from the embossed logo). I won’t mention it here though in case some fakers actually lurk here.

[jaredschallenge]

This might not be ebay garbage yet. But the guy just filled a dump truck and is on the way to the landfill as we speak. He’s hype shilling his own auction on his 0 feedback account taking a poll on the value of his listing that I view as barely worth 2k with poll options at 4k 6k 8k etc. The guy even blatantly says it’s his auction in a comment Judge for yourself.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/myjfzs/wotc_pokémon_collection_on_ebay_and_this_owner/

[mcorey777]

Whatever you guys do don’t buy off seller probstein123 on eBay!! I wish I checked their feedback. They are a huge seller or were at one point. This month alone they have a ton of negative feedback but because of their past sales they have a 95 percent plus feedback rating.

I won a PSA 9 Aquapolis Nidoking off the person two weeks ago. A week or so passes and i remind them to please ship out my card soon. They say they will but have been busy. Another week passes and now their excuse is it was double listed. So you mean to tell me you put a card up for auction but also sold it on another platform? Or also on eBay? I checked eBay and it’s a bold faced lie. I’m thinking because it didn’t sell as high as they wanted they simply rather take the negative feedback. Also you mean to tell me it took you two weeks to realise you don’t have the card? Really?

Also apparently they are known to shill bid their own auctions and do consignment deals. Avoid probstein123 like the plague! Horrible to do business with. I can only imagine if this was a consignment the actual seller obviously wasn’t paid yet because probstein123 is too busy trying to manipulate the market to get that perfect price. Sorry for the rant it’s just bullshit

[jaredschallenge]

@mcorey777

Whatever you guys do don’t buy off seller probstein123 on eBay!! I wish I checked their feedback. They are a huge seller or were at one point. This month alone they have a ton of negative feedback but because of their past sales they have a 95 percent plus feedback rating.

I won a PSA 9 Aquapolis Nidoking off the person two weeks ago. A week or so passes and i remind them to please ship out my card soon. They say they will but have been busy. Another week passes and now their excuse is it was double listed. So you mean to tell me you put a card up for auction but also sold it on another platform? Or also on eBay? I checked eBay and it’s a bold faced lie. I’m thinking because it didn’t sell as high as they wanted they simply rather take the negative feedback. Also you mean to tell me it took you two weeks to realise you don’t have the card? Really?

Also apparently they are known to shill bid their own auctions and do consignment deals. Avoid probstein123 like the plague! Horrible to do business with. I can only imagine if this was a consignment the actual seller obviously wasn’t paid yet because probstein123 is too busy trying to manipulate the market to get that perfect price. Sorry for the rant it’s just bullshit

I haven’t had any bad experiences with them over the past few years that I’ve made approximately half a dozen purchases from them. Maybe they hit the fan since I’ve done business with them last about 10 months ago. Sorry they gave you a runaround and pulled back a sale man.

[mcorey777]

@jaredschallenge Ya it looks like they use to do good business. But this past few months they lost their morals. It was just aggravating because it’s a card I bought for my collection. I’ll end up finding another seller but it’s bullshit my money got tied up on a card probstein123 never planned on selling in the first place. A refund wasn’t even issued. I was told to open a case which really set me off

[lamplamp]

@mcorey777

Whatever you guys do don’t buy off seller probstein123 on eBay!! I wish I checked their feedback. They are a huge seller or were at one point. This month alone they have a ton of negative feedback but because of their past sales they have a 95 percent plus feedback rating.

I won a PSA 9 Aquapolis Nidoking off the person two weeks ago. A week or so passes and i remind them to please ship out my card soon. They say they will but have been busy. Another week passes and now their excuse is it was double listed. So you mean to tell me you put a card up for auction but also sold it on another platform? Or also on eBay? I checked eBay and it’s a bold faced lie. I’m thinking because it didn’t sell as high as they wanted they simply rather take the negative feedback. Also you mean to tell me it took you two weeks to realise you don’t have the card? Really?

Also apparently they are known to shill bid their own auctions and do consignment deals. Avoid probstein123 like the plague! Horrible to do business with. I can only imagine if this was a consignment the actual seller obviously wasn’t paid yet because probstein123 is too busy trying to manipulate the market to get that perfect price. Sorry for the rant it’s just bullshit

Probstein123 has been mega sketch for some time now. Like others have said there’s definite shilling and re-listing when his prices don’t get to where he thinks they should.

I used to order stuff from him but the vague listings and pictures turned into getting poor condition cards more often than not so I stopped buying from him. On top of that, he charges $4 shipping on singles but will send PWE and pocket the difference in shipping costs (I know that I should look at the total item cost but advertising one shipping method and using another is a deceptive business practice)