Do you guys think will ever see pre 2020 prices again?

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This is the only thing they can count on in the long run!
Yeah I do agree that popularity with children is very important. I never said when prices will go down but I bet it will happen within 10 years.

I don’t have children myself but basically every person in my personal environment with kids aged from 5 to 12 always asks me to bring their kids Pokemon cards whenever I go to Japan. So I guess it’s still pretty popular among kids today.

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30th will have no impact unless there are other external factors. For example, a 30th Celebrations set would do nothing besides the set itself which was basically what Celebrations did. A generational game for Gen 10 would be an external factor but just because it turns 30 in Jan or Pokemon Day Feb or whatever will not miraculously inflate prices.

Every so often on this site I let reality slip through instead of using it as a break from it- observe the zero progress being made towards the climate crisis. Whatever you think normalcy is, it’ll be non-existent in 60 years. In fact, much sooner than that. Of course, it won’t just be Pokemon cards that are worth nothing by then but pretty much all materialistic goods.

The question is how little does it take to kickstart or imbed nostalgia? Whether these kids genuinely like Pokemon or whether they start chasing the bag due to influencers, would it matter if that seed is implanted?

Of course, I can’t escape the commentary I just made above, where we & the world will have a lot more pressing needs in 20 years than whether or not Pokemon is still around.

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It’s thriving.

See the above. Honestly, I’m surprised myself but the 4-10 yr olds love gen 1 as much as the 35-40 yr olds.

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Only if Pokemon becomes irrelevant in 50 years or so. Other than that, I see no way that happens.

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Despite the dominance of video games and social media, if there is one physical toy that a boy will own in 2025 it is likely going to be Pokémon cards.

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I get the concept, but I think this is a bit exaggerated in my opinion.
It’s like saying that a 6 years child loves Dragon ball as much as a 30 yrs man, because he watched Dragon Ball Super: the cultural impact just isn’t the same.

I don’t particularly disagree but I wanted to just share a different perspective!

-The Pokemon pool is over 1000 different characters now, while it was literally 151 for the 40 yrs old boy.
-The millennial was playing Red and Blue, watching the Indigo league anime and bathing in og Pokemania.
-He had limited exposure to Internet and socials, so it was a bigger percentage of his “known universe”, while for the 4-10 yrs kid is competing with dozen of other trendy things.
-We frequently see millennials who only collect Gen1-Gen2 Pokemon, since the first generations (for a segment of population) clearly stand above the others; it’s a visceral attachment. Let’s also not talk about the extremely reduced attention span nowadays for the younger generation.

In the end, it’s impossible to predict what a 4-10 yrs old would do in the future. I bet they like the peak of Kanto Pokemon, not doubting that, but honestly we’re already seeing a shift in general preferences (and the average collector age hasn’t really moved that much! so who knows what will happen when they grow).

It’s also better to not considered nostalgia as a supernatural power who moves everything: people could get into Tcg without ever having owned a single card during childhood, while collecting a binder full of Charizord at 7 years old doesn’t guarantee he will be interested when growing up.

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Of course. I’m not predicting what they will be into in the future or saying that they prefer gen 1 Pokemon to others. I used gen 1 as an example simply because it’s the oldest. You can replace it with any other generation.

My comment was in regards to: “It will be hard to keep making more and more cards for the same old pokemon over and over.”

As you mentioned, there are 1000+ different Pokemon now. As adults, we view some as old and get tired of seeing them but to kids they are all new and exciting. They don’t care if the Pokemon is from 1999 or 2025.

Point being, you can keep using old Pokemon, because to kids, Pikachu is just as new as Fuecoco and everything other Pokemon in between.

Which ones they gravitate toward and/or pursue in the future is anyones guess.

Are dwarf stars found in kitchens :rofl: But seriously, the most were going to see is pre 2022 prices for the newer sets after the crash, but its not happening anytime soon

I guess when I look into what could happen I’m thinking about comparable collectibles like comics with their growth & decline + the aging of that fan base as somewhat of a baseline. I do think it’s completely realistic that the past doesn’t repeat itself and the prices crumble for other unforeseen circumstance or propel. TLDR it could happen and logic would suggest prices decline but no one really knows and it’s difficult to not be emotionally guessing one way or the other as we’re all massive pokemon fans so our bias will always kick in.

Only in our dreams. There are many things I’d like to go back and change about pre-pandemic…

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Never. You missed the boat.

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