Getting cards from Team Magma vs Aqua and Ex Emerald is a pain.
Edit: I guess this is why Fire Red Leaf Green Ex Holos (Everything but charizard) are pretty much affordable, there’s way too many graded cards from this particular set.
Good job putting the chart together, it looks great!
A note on the data: PSA is very inconsistent when distinguishing sets between 1st Edition and Unlimited. The figure for Base Set is so high not only because Base Set is popular, but also because PSA categorises 1st Edition, Unlimited and Shadowless all as one set. Neo Genesis on the other hand has different 1st Edition and Unlimited sets.
I’ve been collating data from PSA’s website weekly since the start of the year and have already applied my own separation rules to make sure sets accurately represent the cards they contain - this isn’t always possible (for instance, PSA categorise promo sets by year rather than by set name, meaning some promo sets are bundled into one year promo category by PSA). I’m planning on making a similar thread to the one I posted back in October last year (with the December follow-up) some time later this year.
I’m planning on working Beckett data into the mix, but that’s complicated by Beckett’s website requiring a sign in - not that it isn’t possible to bypass, it just means manually generating auth tokens every time I want to fetch new data, which gets tedious pretty quickly.
Beckett’s POP reports are incomplete as can be, though… Loads of cards cannot be found in their pop report, even though they’re definitely out there. And even when I try to search some BGS cards with their cert ID they don’t come up on their website… It’s like they’re missing 9/10th of all the cards they’ve graded in their database for some reason… I already contacted them about it, but no response thus far.
Anyway, sorry to derail the current topic. Maybe we should discuss this in another thread. I just had to respond to it when I saw @pichufan 's comment.
But awesome graphs yet again, rainbow! I also like the graph with ex era sets and Charizard in your comment above. It’s also no surprise the XY Evolution set has a pretty high peak. And I’m amused by the gap for Base Set 2.
Thanks for the awesome data visualization, I especially appreciate the ex era breakdown. I find the peaks of Unseen Forces and Delta Species interesting because both sets have been hit by special “events” that could inflate the pop. Unseen Forces has the Gold Star “Dog” fiasco while Delta Species is one of the few ex era sets to have been hit by a mass grading by Card Rush.
let’s see what happens to the EX series pops in the coming months. I predict the pop will grow a lot, but prices will not. While the print runs may have been low, it seems way too easy to find raw mint cards. I have been buying whole sets and individual pack fresh cards on ebay with little effort. And I’m only buying the reverse holos not the regular set cards. Also, with no “first edition” designation, the whole print run is equally collectible.
I’m not sure if others saw the massive EX series stash that Pokerev found recently. When I reached out I was told they had already sent the entire lot for grading. 1 case each of every EX-series. Pretty much all pack fresh, safely stored and never played with. By the time EX came out, how many people were opening cards, sleeving them and putting them in binders, basically collecting vs playing. or even when playing, playing with sleeves. I think quite a few. With the cards “coming into value” we should see a lot of binders sitting in closets being dusted off.
Of course, some cards and sets will be different. Nothing I said applies to the ultra rare EX cards and gold stars. totally different animal. Also a few of the sets like TRR seem to be their own animal in terms of collectability, desirability, and (probably) relative scarcity.
As a whole, I really like the EX series but outside of gold stars and EX cards I’ve been trying to approach pricing cautiously. I have bought some graded cards to fill gaps, but each time with that Homer Simpson “doh” noise in my head when I checkout as the graded set cards don’t yet feel like a great investment.
@jonandek What I’m picking up on is ex era wasn’t very popular. Honestly Pokemon had plenty of unpopular years. Pretty much everything from ex era until black and white wasn’t very popular. Maybe I’m wrong but that’s what it seems like which ties into print runs. I’m also pretty sure what I’m hearing is E series wasn’t even popular until recently and still even now some collectors still can’t get past the E series boarders. I’m sure eventually people that originally didn’t like the look of some of these cards might accept them and collect them which will tie into value. But for now they are low on everyone’s radar except a select few of us that actually like them. Nothing like WOTC cards but still they have a place in my heart and collection
Thanks for the compliment and your data contribution. It’s fun to pick through. I for one would love to see the Beckett data, even if it missing records as indicated.
I threw together another chart. This time in both descending order and without the base set as its value was too extreme and dwarfed the others unnecessarily here (when we already have seen it in the first chart).
No coloured labels neither, much to my disappointment as they were too busy when mixed by year.
Just remember, the pops won’t reflect any reaction to the current market price increases until the backlog is met, which i’ve read on here is something like 6+ months? Though I don’t know where their timing information is drawn from.
This is pretty much what i’ve been talking with other Ex collectors; by December 2020 (Estimate) and once all our Ex subs (i know plenty of people that send a massive ex sub, including me) are being completed; and the pop raises there’s no way someone is going to keep paying U$S900+ for Gengar; or 250+ for Zapdos/Moltres/Articuno from Fire Red Leaf Green, these cards are way more common than what people think, and shattered holos Ex’s are way easier to grade since they barely get scratches on the front.
Neat! I am kinda surprised by how many of the ex era sets have fewer graded cards than Base 2. Also, are there really more graded Steam Siege cards than ex Emerald? Weird.
just curious, are you able to provide any further detail on if the ex cards are distributed evenly across the various sets? i just don’t really ever remember seeing many ex boxes being listed on eBay over the years, but i can believe that many people who opened the cards in the past probably didn’t grade a whole bunch, based on prior prices and the pop report. all very interesting.
They are definitely not distributed evenly across the 2003/2007 sets; i saw Ex Emerald Box breaks with 3/4 Exs pulled in the whole box, in the other hand, i saw Ex FRLG opening with over 8 Exs pulled!
Make sure to check Pokerev’s recent videos, he did open an ex Emerald and the Ex pulls were low, really low compared to his Ex FRLG opening that happened a couple days ago.
This is an interesting point as any modern sets post the WOTC era, low PSA pops have been put down to the desirability of wanting to grade them being low, thats why theres many holos out there with pops less then 50…when you consider this aspect, the fact they are still 10-15 years old and not much newer then the WOTC era…it will be interesting to see how much gem mint psa 10 pop is out there.
It will be difficult at this point to actually understand what is a rarer card, what is difficult to grade purely based on the low number of psa submissions, the sample size is simply too small.
Its much more difficult for me as a collector or a investor to really determine value of cards in these eras because you just dont know whether they will get to that stage perhaps how the e-series has gone, where it wasnt anything to really look at, but once people have filled there boots with wotc there into e-series, after e-series where will they head next!