smpratticoinz, whats worth more? A chumlee video or a BGS pristine no rarity zard?
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I need to get on discord.
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Iâd like to meet your translator. Because I had it translated by a person in Japan and it says 1st edition has no symbol or symbol and 2nd edition and jungle has a symbol. Itâs partly Kanji.
Again, letâs just say itâs the Media Factoryâs first release which doesnât even make it the first Pokemon release. To some people itâs a fun collectible and Iâd say enjoy it.
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This chat still going ?
Letâs just agree that you all collect different sets and enjoy different collecting goals but at the end of the day pokemon is our hobby we love so leave it at that 
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Here you go. It has multiple meanings in the Kanji printing style used. So it means either/or and/or both.
This was all well worth someone elseâs $50.
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Why in the world would someone pay cash to have him say something? lol
I think itâs pretty cool, you could really freak out a family member or friend if they didnât know chumlee does this sort of thing
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I could see if it were a few bucks but $50? Crazy for sure.
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I got a bit carried away with the whole belittle thing.
I was a bit upset tht the dj Byte gig guy was saying i am a belittler.
I have many privaTE messages and convos which are all with me good dudes and i know they know me and how i roll and are just messing around.
But its more i take offense personally to the no rarities if anything and thats just on threads when this shite happens. Because no raritanz are the childs. AND its going to take 30 years of sacrifice to get dem in the pristines. Thats true Pristine 10 cards, and gem mints. I didnt mean to be a belittler also when i talk, but I am a motivator and im sure there is peeps who have taken on the furious ways of the synd. To say people this dedicated are not serious collectors is not cool, but opinions will be opinions I guess you could say i was saying that your not a serious collector if you dont collect or go after no rarities, because i see it as a sign of giving up on something that is hard to do and more time should be put into it, which is why i have to be tough sometimes. If you believe that is the only thing to do though, that would be a mistake⌠All the gemz must be had, not just no rarities. Time and effort is what makes tingz great, if you spend no time on something compare that to someone who spends all there time on it. Take guitar ect, your gonna see the person spending more time succeed in everyway. There is no such thing as natruelness and it is what the chinese say. What ever that word they use is. SOmeone go google it. Smpratticoinz and garinson did not get were they were today with no time and effort. It took everything.
But smpratticoinz is one of the people i talk to all the time, because he smells bad and to defeat those at the top you must learn all the secrets and abbiltinz and copy them and destroy them with gratitude. He just said now if I talk about the children A.K.A no raritanz them people will just hate them more. So im not going to anymore as we all know where it ends. and its just making to much frustration and hatings. I just Dont understand how Serious japanese collectors which this forum is full of can sit there and ignore these like there nothing when everything about them points to greatness. Especially the extremely low print compared to other Sets and the fact that they are indeed the first printed base set. For japanese collectors it cannot get any better, and in japan these are gold to their people.
Look how many copies there are of alot of those tournament cards in gem mint and sealed condition, and look how many copies of shinnings japanese, gold stars ect pop up each day. We are living In a world were the 10 is all that matters to the highest end of collectors and collectors that will pay 6,000 for a card with worse whitening then a mint 9. I am not alone in my analysis, and i know others here see what i see whether they are Experienced collectors, or sellers or both.
Nothing japanese set wise will ever come close to english on the market, the only set that toppels the english cards head to head off in the backround is the no rarities. SHinnings, gold stars, even a bunch of the tournament cards dont stand a chance against english. But these do and they always will which in the long run has alot to do with the fact that they are extremely scarce in gem mint condition. IF they are GEM mint, psa and bgs hate there aestetic apeal in regards to the centering. Any absolute psa 10 serious charizard collector is going to have this at the top of there list after they aquire what is actually obtainable which is the 1st ed english and the shadowless psa 10. People have tried to trade me for the psa 10 numerous times, but I cannot trade that copy as its to special, and so is my 9.5 which is infact perfect. Ill never be able to save for the 1st edition and i was stupid in handeling mine due to condition reasons and couldnt get one back, so it is going to probably cost me a no rarity charizard. I will have all charizards. xD
Even gary who is a huge charizard collector wanted this card and went after it, and a few others did to. Once the french girl offered 9,000 I defeated her. It was actually an english collector who offered just a bit under garyz offer at some point during that time.
So if @gemmintpokemon was after it and gary lord of the charizards, then what does dis tell you.
Hope you enjoyed my last wall of text in regards to my childrenz.
sorry @swolepoke @djgigabyte ect.
#noraritieswillsuffice
#syndneedsleepsels
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Pikachu(glossy) and Jigglypuff(glossy) are the first Pokemon cards released. Twas 5 days before Japanese Base Set (20th October 1996) in the November 1996 CoroCoro released 15th October 1996. Also no rarity is â1st Editionâ only in terms of being the predecessor to the corrected/updated ârarityâ base set, Media Factory did not purposely release âno rarityâ like WOTC did by adding the 1st edition stamp to shadowless cards. A â1st Editionâ designation denotes something that was planned and on purpose, which is not the case with no rarity.
As for the silver bible excerpt saying that it is 1st Edition it is either the wrong translation or the information is incorrect.
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so these are not actually first edition?
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Itâs pretty much undisputed that they are the first print run of the Japanese Base Set (Expansion Pack). As to whether or not Media Factory intentionally left out the rarities to create an intentional "First Edition"⢠print run of the card has yet to be definitively proven either way.
If you ask me for my personal opinion, they are a neat accident. A stylistic change that happened pretty early in the printing. I donât think they were made to purposely create a limited edition print run. I think Occamâs razor would agree with me.
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@shizzlemetimbers knows a thing or two about NR! Funny how you literally said word for word what I stated in discord weeks ago.
Basically this is a pointless semantics argument. Are NR literally â1st Editionâ, no. Were they the first base release, yes.
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Has this ever been more than a semantics argument over the meaning of âofficialâ on E4? The only argument Iâve ever perpetrated or seen perpetrated was that no rarity was not a first edition print in the way that WotC 1st is a first edition print. There is no official declaration that they are first edition because itâs just a print run variation. In the same way that 1999-2000 fossil is clearly printed after the US release English 1st Edition and Unlimited (informally 2nd edition) prints, but it is not considered an official 3rd edition. Clear as day that it is printed later, but itâs not an official 3rd edition release. Itâs just the third variation printed that weâve noted.
No rarity was most likely printed before Japanese base set with rarity symbols. It is not an official first edition. Which is why it will always be a niche collectible. It takes a seasoned collector to explain why the print came first and how we have collectively come to that conclusion.
A select few people insist on freaking out when people talk about their use of the word âofficialâ and proceed to scream about how theyâre first. That misses the point. It is a textbook logical fallacy. We arenât talking about your use of the word first. We are talking about your use of the word official.
Whether you can convince people to pay a premium for no rarity on a consistent basis is not something I have an interest in nor is it relevant to the debate.
But Iâm not sure itâs much of an argument of reason at this point anyway. Seems more hinged on emotion. That said, Iâve ordered the media factory book that the small image is taken from and will send it to an L5 Federal translator for the US government to see what they say once I get it in. Should be fun to see how this old book has referenced it. Always nice to have the oldest documentation possible about the no rarity phenomenon. 
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No rarities are an âaccidentâ? Ouch. I can hear pokesyn blood boiling right nowđŽ Maybe putting rarity symbols on them was an afterthought?
Of course the no symbol Jungle Holos were an accident but they are still a cool collectible.
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I mean âaccidentâ as in an accident of fate. Most likely (as you said) rarities were an afterthought and were just not part of the original design. I can only speculate, but it seems like the most reasonable story.
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Wtf 
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