It was no accident. That’s speculation as you have no proof. It was clearly printed on purpose or they would not have printed them for 3 to 6 months prior to printing the base set with rarity symbols. Also, this information you posted is wrong. Period. The no rarity cards released in October and were printed for a couple months prior to that. In Japan, Ivy Pikachu, along with the Jigglypuff card, was first available as an insert with the November 1996 issue of CoroCoro Comic, released on October 15, 1996. So no these cards did not exist prior to no rarity 1st edition Japanese base set.
@aetsen
Why would Media Factory purposefully release no rarity cards if they had the corrected and updated versions ready to go? Remember no rarity cards contain errors like wrong set numbers and incorrect weights, one even has a grammatical/‘spelling’ mistake (Gastly). Media Factory most certainly would not send out cards with errors if they had prior knowledge. If you have solid information as to why Media Factory would knowingly release cards with errors while having the corrected versions ready I am all ears.
The 15th of October comes before the 20th of October in all aspects of reality that I have encountered. I am not discrediting no rarity in any way I am only interested in reality and the two promos were available before Base Set. You can claim whatever you want as to the date of actual production but there is no evidence as to the production dates of almost any TCG item both Japanese and English. The only exception to this is dates on uncut sheets.
No rarity was available for a much shorter time period and most certainly not 6 months, a good calculated estimate is approx. 2 months. We know this from the recent opening of the 1996 Gift Set which was released on the 12th of December 1996. Also interestingly, people have opened these same Gift Sets to find rarity cards. So that helps narrow down an approx. date range.
I would say as a whole that no rarity is an underrated and misunderstood set, the holos especially are notoriously difficult to find mint or better and sealed product is almost non existent. Under normal circumstances this makes for an interesting collectible but has become almost a controversial topic and some people hate this set mainly for the fact that people seem to attribute things about it that don’t exist or attempt to create artificial hype.
The way people artificially push No Rarity reminds me of Facebook pyramid schemes. Majority of the members here are more than aware of the cards and their actual history. @shizzlemetimbers alone has produced the most comprehensive guide on NR to date.
The no rarity release was obviously not conceptual. The conceptual release was the standard base set. If anything that is what makes NR interesting; they were a mistake/anomaly. At least that is what I thought before the flipper craze destroyed these cards for me. Oh and market data agrees with that sentiment. Most of the graded cards sold for more years ago, in a smaller market.
The overall Pokemon market has significantly grown, NR cards are decently rare, yet prices have declined for graded holos (excluding charizard). Not only do collectors not care, they care less than they did years ago, partly due to these bullheaded branding attempts.
Prices have gone up on all graded holos consitantly. You havent been there or are aware of the market in the backround.
Your only going off ebay.
Even the uncommons and commons are absolutely killing it.
YOu dont own any 10s accept for machamp, so you havent been approached or made any sales. So you cant make this statement because i have defeated you in all parts no rarity. xD
Nows the part were i prevoke you to go find me sealed
The commons/uncommons and holos are all destroying shadowless as far as price point goes. Though its not seen, I see it all.
I havent missed a sale or word about them. Trust me I spend much more time on no rarities then anyone.
But you know what… You have actually said your feelings towards them, which is good enough for me. You say they have been ruined by the price? Does that mean that if you got a charizard centered and graded a 10 that you would sell it for cheap? That would be insane given theres 4 that popped up in 3 and a half years. Thats almost 1 a year basically. I think you would list it for 30,000 make offer if you got your hands on one. IM sure you would have liked to get a bunch of them and do this slowly over a few years and not bubbelise the shit out of them, but we cant control the market on such rarities. However you can work to get them for a good price which is way funner then getting them easily. Nothing good or fun comes with ease.
I wish I could get all the trophies for the price you got them for, but it aint ever gonna happen.
You dont go off this market when referencing trophies. So why do it with no rarities?
Blastoise SOld for more each time.
mint 9 holos sold for more each time.
even nm 7s sold for around 100.
Plenty of cards have had sniper sales on ebay for english cards and they still do during these high prices.
Ebay is a small picture compared to private sales when going off cards like this.
Not fighting you, just wondering why you not taken into account the tingz i have said to you.
All i notice when i see japanese collectors and serious ones is that they hold there cards forever, they are true collectors. WHen i see english collectors alot of the time there cards are back on the market in weeks.
Its not about pushing no rarities. They speak for themselves. But i just notice alot more integrity in the collectors that collect them. And just japanese collectors in general. I will no longer be speaking of them especially if thats what you believe and have decided im doing. But i will never stop loving the legendarin no raritan, no matter what anyone says. If I was pushing them i would have listed them a long time ago. My personal collection means everything to me. Offers will stay as offers for eternity muhhahahahaha. One day I might list them to prove a point and show you those offers, but i will not sell unless i have built possibly 2-3 sets in 10 yearbz time xD Even then it will be very hard to justify unless I can use all that for a big trophy deal.
Garinson you wanted to know why they missing the symbols… Well you see The peeps who started pokemoon cardlingz were MTG fanboiz… that could have something to do with the symbols missing. IF you look at the mtg boxes and decks they resemble the base set japanese in exact shape and form.
Ohh but your gonna see just how wrong that statement is.
When I get an offer for 1 million for a complete set.
You were baffled when garys 1st edition started selling for the same as your trophies. You thought that was cool.
You wait to see the offers that come my way when i have a complete no rarity and 1st ed shadowless set completed. and shadowless. Together. But thats all they will be is offers
Aint noone ever going to achieve what i do with set cards, david pearson smpratticoinz and even garinson will be meagerb footnotes in comparison to my destructive squadston of epic set card power !!! MUHAHAHAHAHA
But credit is due and OF course they will be heavily influencial footnotes
wait untill i achieve every english card and all no rarities in pristine 10.
You have laid back, underestimated set cards, and you had your time. Now it is my turn to destroy you all and take over the entire pokemoon economy. HEIL SYNDLER! xD
Gary didnt underestimate Set cards and he didnt underestimate the power of the pristine grade which need i remind you toppled your illustrator sale with a Honda Civic. I will become Gary of the south. I do it with no oppotunity from australia. I dont live in the u.s We dont get it easy here. Ill do it all online by myself and I get all my deals myself and i earn them myself because where is the fun in doing things that are easy. Not that its that easy to get cards anywhere, but there is much better tax laws in america and there is wotc all over the place, and trading is better if you live there. ill make what is impossible to everyone actually possible A true pristine10/gem mint 10 master set of everything and it will have nothing to do with money… Screw money, it is literally a tool to the success of the greatest collection that will be put together by man. With vizibillitinz there becomes possibilitinz!!!
You may think i am crazy and that it will not happen, but I have never stopped never stopping!!! #syndicatewillsuffice PUNKSTER PiNKSTERS!
Mr. DJ Gigabyte and the e4 crew… Theres a difference between Knowing the path and walking the path
There is nothing I have said that I have not myself researched. Cards are printed ahead of time, months prior preparing for release. The promos were an afterthought likely by the promotional team as were the rarity symbols. The first book by Media Factory for rarity symbol cards was printed on March 30th 1997. The first promotional media for no rarity was printed in 1995 and no rarity media continued into 1997 around the time rarity cards came out and then everything had rarity symbols in printed material. See images below for reference.
So there you have it. Now let’s see any of you guys back up any of your claims with evidence and not conjecture.
You are very condescending lol, and i dont think its in a good way. Unless im mistakened it seems pretty much like you try and undermine people by stating tingz they cannot argue with. That is fallacitized statements. Whether that is just how you do things, or your condescending i dont know. But it leaves absolutely no room for people to have a proper discussion.
You cant say there not special because you disrespect them from the beginning were is alot of japanese collectors do not. All japanese Serious collectors know there special.
Its not just about the way media factory released them because you see Media factory never called them NO rarity Symbol cards either did they? PSA Labeled them as such because collectors came up with that name. If this isnt true, can any of the e4 crew or anyone here show me were media factory calls them NO rarity symbols? Who came up with that name?
If collectors refer to them as 1st edition, then thats fine. Why does 1 group of people get to dictate what there called over the groups of collectors that actually care about them?
Guess thats why theres been 10 million threads and convos about these.
Mr. DJ Gigabyte you are in complete denial or maybe its just arrogance on the subject in spite of me and what ive said… Regardless of personal feelings. IF they are not special There wouldnt be endless talk about them since the mystery was noticed.
Can i have your trophies for 10 dollans since you care so much about the communities and collectors. xD
Do you want me to share some stories about some dealings with the people in this " Selfless community "
Wanna go down that road? Ill show you how much humans care for one another.
Why are you accusing me about paying someone. I thought gary might have done it on my behalf was the initial thought.
IF you go down this moral road Boy do i have a treaty or 2 for you.
Ive never sold a single no rarity 10 card and i never will unless its to get something like a trophy.
Dont go down the bullshit path of self righteousness because your not fooling anyone. Your the type of guy who will take advantage of the market just like everyone else. Thats what capitalism is about… or do you want to sell me all your cards at a loss?
No rarities are about the collectors which is exactly what i was talking about before with integrity of japanese collectors. Call them whatever you want to call them. Pricing only reflects the great things about them, and thats all ive ever said. IS how great they are themselves.
The other day a no rarity mint 9 blastoise sold for 500usd. I sold a copy for 350USD to that person who bought it.
IF I was a as bad as a scammer like you are saying then I should have sold it to him for 700 or 800 like another one sold for a while back.
Ive never taken advantage of anyone and i never will.
Im not the one to burn someone up for 25,000 dollars profit. But all you guys in america seem to think its okay to, and this seems to be the game. So Why wouldnt someone sell? IS this illegal… I really just dont get how you guys twist things to be bad and evil… Cause thats what you do isnt it. Someone says something against the normal… Ohhhh lets label them as a scammer. ect.
You have an entire list here for it. Its what you do.
So basically you are saying you don’t want to recognize them as the true 1st edition even though the evidence is in front of you because it will hurt the value of your collection. Let’s talk about the real morals here. Most of us who collect these have sold none. How many 1st edition English cards have you sold?