"Bulk" Prices

Deriums announced today that they probably going to make random packs, selling 10-20 cards with guaranteed foil in every pack. Because; what else you gonna do with 1m Pokemon Cards you all got because you traded 1500 bulk cards for 1 sealed box?

Also:
en.pokemoncardmarket.eu/

C-UC going for 0.02 to 0.06 (exceptions ofc like playable trainers)
Reverses going for 0.1-0.4 depending on card
Rares anywhere between 0.05 and eBay pricing

Im hoping to do the same to clear out alot of my bulk unc and com and extra rares etc.Hopefully it goes well and the bundles sell, then I can use the money to properly start collecting and investing. Its theoretical as chances are it wont work and ill sell like 1 haha! But im going to give it a go to get some capital for real investments, cards, boxes and grade stuff myself :blush:
My intention is to really get into it as I have only been butying new stuff, and more recently sealed things I see value in the future aswell as cards.

I don’t doubt for one second that you could sell as many of these lots as you want for a competitive price. The real questions is, what kind of seller will you be?

It would only be a short term thing to clear what I have for some capital to really focus on my goals and investing.
What kind of sellers are there? As I said I’m new to this, sold a bunch of cards and boosters but nothing substantial.

The bundles/card packs would really be for casual collectors, people getting into the hobby etc. I fully describe everything about them ha every fine details so the buyer knows exactly what to expect(bar the specific cards as that’s the surprise)t o avoid claims as I know what people can be like.

Around 500 total bundles with a few unique twists to make them more attractive then Ill have cleared my bulk unc+c plus my extra rares holos ex cards. If this works It’ll create a nice bit of capital so I can then concentrate fully on the hobby :blush: Previously I just collected new sets etc as I was getting back into it (I like to ramble by the way XD )

When I got out of the Dragon Ball Z TCG in early 2000’s I had tons of bulk left. And from experience I can say, unless the pack you are going to make are appealing you’re not selling at all. Trying to sell packs of 100 random C/UC cards for $3-5 is a dead end. Because nobody is going to pay bulk pricing for bulk cards if there is no ‘lottery’ card involved.

So unless you have bulk in rares, holo and reverse holo cards next to your C/UC bulk you not able to shift cards that easily. If you only have C/UC bulk better trade those in for sealed product.

I have a mix of both it would be x amount of c/uc and then rares, holo, rh etc. selling bulk like stated above wouldnt work I know that ha. I offer a lottery style bundle with extra perks etc just to try get an edge.Got to have a USP to have any chance against the big dogs of the tcg.
£8-10 per bundle on ebay and ofc less through other means, c/uc plus x amount of rares rh and then lottery cards plus a few other things. It will take a while but I don’t mind, If I do shift 500 then great! that will give me some money to pretty much start fresh and properly

Actually in the US, the guys that do these lots, are paying $6 per 100 un/c so it does have value…

basically you can be clear on what people are likely to get, or take a pic of all the best cards and in fine print in description say there is only a chance to get one of those pictured

I see fair enough! Oh yea I fully describe and explain the lots in detail in the description so no issues there. Its 100% clear with full detail, I don’t like ambiguous ebay sales.

Because you can also go the other route where you sell tons of lots, because they think they get everything pictured …
While I would normally say that is scummy, but then again just about everyone in any other category will advertise items to the point where what they say is not false, but not completely true either …

I over describe, Id rather people know exactly what they are getting in the lucky bundles. Rather than give them the impression they will get a base Charizard, shining Mewtwo etc as a lot seem to do that. Just looking on ebay for bundles there’s loads of cards listed with amazing ones for like 10 quid. No chance in hell you will ever get them but its like YT click bait, draws the unsuspecting in and swindles them under false pretences(though the seller will deny of course saying well I say they don’t always get cards pictured)

I’m hoping to sell up to 500 bundles to clear myself out of bulk and extra rares and ex cards, but that’s the ideal outcome :stuck_out_tongue:
I do add a twist to them, making it more attractive to buy but I’m notoriously unlucky with everything >.<.
I’m the guy who can bet on red, black and green then somehow lose!(if you knew me you’d understand heh)

Really not a fan of the “bundles”. Pretty much just selling bulk with a $3 ex for $15-20. Don’t really care what the fine print says, its just lying putting the pictures of the top end cards you have no intention of randomly inserting. Not to mention, if I am not mistaken, its against ebay TOS “the listing doesn’t single out anything that “may” be contained in the grab bag that has particular monetary or obvious collectible value” which is what those pictures of $50+ cards are doing. Its just my opinion, but if you want to drop bulk, don’t make these undervalued EX lots I see everyone make.

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I commend you for going the honest route. I just didn’t want to speak badly about people selling the other way, because in reality almost everything else in the world is sold to make it seem a lot better than it is, and I’m not going after them…

It is a super competitive market and I personally think you may want to make larger bundles to save time/money, but first try this and see how it goes, you can always bunch up the bundles together later!

Yea the only issues I find are for large It will cost more so then I will have to add tracking (for my own peace of mind) and then postage is cranked up. Its trying to find that happy medium! The ebay fees, paypal,postage, listing and BIN(if you use them) means you end up with maybe half of the listing amount…sad times! Since I’m not a large buyer and seller it can destroy any and all profits. So I’ve been stalling until I get it figured out(pretty much there, still bend over for the fees and extras)

The way I conduct and business(albeit rarely)is to treat others and my items how id like to have them If I was buying.

I need to gauge the bundles market more as it is incredibly competitive, too much so to be honest. That is why I want to try clear out and move away from it(I know alot of people do brilliantly doing this but as an independent super small scale seller its not feasible long term)

I really do not want to “burst your bubble” (who knows, maybe this will work-out well for you) - but let me give you my take on this. I am a “mid-level” eBay Seller with an established reputation (Feedback and DSR) and a decent following through my eBay Store and FB Page. Awhile back, I tried selling my Nintendo-Era Cards in similar lots - offering 100 Cards in NM/M Condition with a few Rare, Rev. Holo, Holo, and LV. X / EX Cards per lot. I forget the specifics on my lots as it was awhile back; however, in-order to be competitive with the “big guys” you really need to price the item well (similar to what they are selling for, or else nobody will buy them). Additionally, you will need to drive traffic to this listing - which usually involves slowly selling a few lots before your listing gains any attention. In regards to that, you are going to need to be patient until your listing gets going - builds-up views, watchers, and sales - this could take a few days, weeks, month… Don’t expect to start selling a couple lots everyday right out of the gate - simply not going to happen unless you offer something that nobody else is / can! This is especially true if you are new to eBay and don’t have that established reputation.

Secondly, you are going to have to take into consideration all of the eBay Fees / PayPal Fees, Shipping Supplies, Postage Cost… If you’re not already selling on eBay, you’re going to have to purchase all of your shipping supplies - which can be a somewhat large up-front cost depending on how you are planning to package/mail the lots.

Third, you are going to have to take into consideration all of your TIME! Personally, I run my eBay Business for fun while I am not working, so I never really factor this into my equation. However, if you’re working full-time and trying to do this on the side, that might be something you would want to consider. It is going to take you awhile to sort-through your cards, put together a few lots to get started (which will have to be done over-and-over again as they sell) and package/mail everything as orders come-in.

Finally, you will get those “idiot buyers” who either leave you a negative feedback and/or request a refund because they thought they would receive everything pictured. You could write the best description ever and you WILL still get these types of buyers - although, it does not happen that often.

Personally, I was not a fan of this type of business. I hated having to build the lots of cards (as it will take awhile) and packaging/mailing. Additionally, at the end of the day, I found that I could simply sell-off my bulk in either larger “small” lots (1K) or all together at once on eBay and still make $0.06 - $0.08 / Card! Finally, if you are in the U.S. you could even send all of your bulk into someone and receive booster boxes in return - which would sell much easier and much quicker!

Hope this helps - Sorry if I put a damper on your plan - just wanted to give you my 2-Cents!

No problem at all! Not dampered etc at all.Im the kind of guy who plans for a plan ha! Postage fees, packaging etc. I dont expect to sell much for a while and im very patient (guys ive played poker with can agree aha) Thank you for your input, it is very useful! I have all the supplies cards and USP already sorted.Its just getting buyers ha! The big turn off are fees postage and arsey buyers but thats life and got to deal with it and try cover as many bases as possible.
This isnt a long term sustainable business model for myself, its just to try get a good price for my extras.

The stores here give crap for bulk, 5 cents per C/U/R and $1 for ultra rare. No matter what it is, even it’s it’s a secret rare ultra ball they will only offer you one buck.

I just sell my bulk on ebay lots, but I post the exact cards that come in it. I also make them geared more for TCG players by putting good trainers. Rather than just the flashy lots aimed at kids with their parent’s CC.

Hah ^
Theres far too many deceiving ebay listings…farrrr too many! got to read the small print…always!You read about people being scammed all the time due to sketchy Ebayers.Its really quite sad :slightly_frowning_face:

Sellling
1st edition charizard shadowless, psa 10 amazing card to have

£500 or best offer

Please read before bidding
Not actually a charizard, infact its a piece of tissue I thought looked like charizard.
So actually listing for a piece of tissue, do not bid if you dont want the tissue.Really nice though, only used once probably nm

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