Seeing as there has been a steady progressive climb on the original base set. From 1st edition, shadowless, and unlimited. What are your guys thoughts on base set 2? Considering it’s very low pop compared to the original base set and the fact that a lot of focus is on the original base set by collector’s, do you guys feel that base set 2 is currently undervalued and could see a potential rise as original base set becomes harder to find?
Base set is still so attainable there’s no reason for Base 2 to go up at this point. Same with the Legendary Collection non-reverse holos. There’s much less demand other than from the niche completionist collectors.
Edit: I should clarify they will appreciate in terms of scaling with the market but not in an ‘undervalued’ sense.
Long answer: it will take a considerable amount of time for it to appreciate like the preceding sets before it. I would personally opt for the box over an unlimited one as I could probably purchase two for the price of an unlimited box and there does appear, at least to m, to be more unl. on the market than base 2. This being said, you’ll be holding the box for a very long time to see any high-end profit off of it. Certain sets like EX Power Keepers and Legend Maker are probably better examples of sets which are undervalued considering they’re still hitting sub-1k yet all the other EX boxes are beginning to climb.
Wasn’t beta always a hot item though? Base 2 reminds me a little of revised as well… there are so many parallels. But revised is still far from even unlimited.
Yeah, MTG was hot from the get go. By the even before revised came out it was a know thing, I got in during revised and I was “late to the party”. I know in Canada I couldn’t find revised boxes for under 1.5-2 retail. I ended up open a lot of the starter decks as I got a better price. Actually, I ended up playing spellfire for a while due to my aversion of “overpaying” something a lot of new collectors need to learn. Overpaying for quality is better then not getting quality.
I remember during revised a ton of cards from older sets being expensive, cards people here wouldn’t even know being $30-$50.
I picked up my P9 set between Ice Age and Alliances and they were $100-$150 each, give or take. My Library (considered P10, at least at the time) was around that as well.
Maybe he felt it was a fad, many cards dropped when Chronicles was released stuff like Elder Dragaons, Carrion Ants, Killer Bees etc took a huge hit, then their was the reprint of Icy Manipulator in Ice Age.
Remember Beanie Babies.
Pokemon did outsell MTG back in the day. I still would have thought MTG would be the better investment back then. But you can’t forget what something like Pokemon is like for an entire generation. I learned that lesson from a big comic dealer. Michael Goldman of Motor City comics used to pick up every copy of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles #1 he could. It was huge and every kid of that generation grew up with them. Also, the book was limited to 1,000 or 2,000 copies as it was an small press book.
I am just surprised he discounted one while embracing the other.
Yeah I guess it was.
I just remember giving up on it after revised. And then new editions and sets started coming out the following year so though I wasn’t involed anymore I did continue collecting the sets until I got too busy with Pokemon in 1999. I’ve been lugging around card boxes full of magic for over 20 years lol.
Great insight @kanagawacards. Thanks for the explanation… its interesting to hear another take on the earlier days. As far as overpaying for quality cards I couldn’t agree more. I don’t show my collection much but it probably (hopefully) reflects that that concept has served me fairly well.
I’ve always collected out of the pleasure of it and what surprises me is how after all this time I’ve never grown tired of it. Its still relatively as enjoyable today as when I first got started collecting. TMNT was a similar thing for lots of people but kind of subjective being more of a male thing. Maybe the value that Pokemon and Magic provided was that it was for everyone. They were (and still are) toys that even big “kids”, boys and girls could enjoy and appreciate.
I remember Beanies. Beanies were a disaster lol.
@garyis2000 I didn’t buy the cards at the time but I remember it was a big deal and a hot item. I wouldn’t consider lugging around 20 year old magic cards a bad thing
Thank you everyone for all the insight. I just realized that due overall sets low PSA pop most dont turn to it right now and that is the reason many don’t see the need to grade it. I honestly feel it has potential and will becomea a set of interest sooner than many might think, due to the fact of the raising prices of 1st edition, shadowless, and even unlimited. A PSA 10 Unlimited Charizard just sold for $2000. As to whether that is its current value I am unsure since I swear I just saw a few PSA 10’s just sell for around $1100 less than 2 months ago. Still it could possibly be. Given the fact that there aren’t many 10’s out and people holding on to their cards instead of selling. The demand only increases so so does price. Soon it will be people looking at PSA 9’s or bgs 9.5’s that could be potential 10’s. Eventually that will be gone and people will have to settle with 9’s and eventually 8s. Those that seek those 10’s for that charizard or other unlimited set card that will become hard pressed to find will have to look at the next best set which is base set 2 or legendary collection. Supply for all out of print sets are limited as we all know and with time it will be hard pressed to find what is fairly easy to get right now. More and more people are joining the hobby. Hearing about what people paid for these cards 5 to 7 years ago. I don’t doubt that many easily attainable cards we see today even in unlimited sets will be near impossible to get in 10 years from now. Maybe even less. Social media will only make this hobby flourish. Its hard to see a downside.
I don’t understand pop vinyls at all. The amount of space it takes to collect them is insane. Seeing MaxMoeFoe’s pop vinyl collection makes me gag a little.
Pop Figures has no value at all, ever.
No limited runs, to many coming out every month. And not as unique as Beanie Babies in their looks.
I’ve been really flipping coins to get into Base 2 or not.
Supply at this moment is higher, so easier to come by. But if you take enough off the market, price will increase
Are you kidding? There are tons of figures that have 20 or less copies produced. Watch the video I linked and you will see the print run on a lot of figures are incredibly low. I collected beanie babies as a kid but never really got too into them…
I have been wondering the same thing. I feel like people in the collecting community don’t really go out of their way to collect this set. I guess we will know with time what will happen.
Base Set 2 has no variants like other sets in that era so no one is really in a rush to collect them. It’s very easy to collect the entire set in mint condition as well still. You can buy a whole box for ~$600 and be done with it and boxes are still readily available. In the modern market people have to prioritize their collecting.