about my 2009 Pichu/Arceus Illustrator card

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I think there are thirteen cards in the 2009 Pichu/Arceus Illustrator set. A few years ago, I purchased one of them on ebay. I have uploaded an image of it below.

My card features Pikachu, Manaphy, and Arceus. The ebay seller said it was mint and sold it to me for $250 US. I know there is a slight difference between mint and gem mint. When I got the card, I scrutinized it and found a pin-sized hole in it. Other than that, the card has no physical flaws.

(1) I think I bought the card in 2012. Do you think I got a good or bad deal on it?

(2) Since the card had a pin-sized hole, do you think the seller should have lowered the price?

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Like a hole going through the card or like pin size indent. I can’t click on the picture to see the hole.

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The image is not my actual card. I got it from Bulbapedia. Sorry, I chose the wrong word when describing the pin-sized flaw. It’s actually an indent, not really a hole.

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Are you happy with your purchase?
Yes, you got a good deal.

Are you unhappy?
Maybe consider asking these questions as soon as you received the card not six years later.

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Poor luvdisc gets no love…
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@pierce might need this one?

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You paid how much for a piece of cardboard with ink on it? Don’t let us tell you if this card has value. Do it for the love of the game.

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It’s fair to say you probably overpaid considering the indent on the card. You should have returned it or ask for a partial refund the instant you noticed that flaw.

I’m not finding any sales data for this particular card which is the 3rd grade winner, but similar ones have sold for about $400 in PSA 10.

An indent could bring the grade down to a 6… On the other hand, these cards are super rare so it’s possible you might get close to what you paid if you were ever to sell it. There’s actually one listed on ebay for $20,000. lol It will be interesting to see how much that seller ends up earning.

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Show us a picture of the indent before going any further.

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A pin sized hole is a pretty huge flaw in a card. A hole of any kind. If its what I am imagining, then you can’t even consider the card close to mint. Unfortunately there are plenty of cards out there that “other than one irredeemable flaw” it would be mint - the reality however is, one can’t just ignore something like that. Something like that immediately makes the card damaged. It is very likely you overpaid from your description and somebody probably took advantage of you in 2012

I have to echo everyone here, you really need to show pictures of the card.

If its an indent - well indents can also be pretty bad and knock off the value/condition of a card severely

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I have had terrible experiences in buying Pokemon cards on ebay and other online stores. I wish I knew about these forums

when I bought my 2009 Pichu/Arceus Illustrator card. I would have asked you guys for your opinions before I bought the card.

Some sellers have cheated me before. In the most recent scam (which I talked about in my previous post), one guy in my club

tried to cheat me by selling a 2005 Japanese victory medal card for 10k. Lucky for me, all of you great people saved me from

being duped. I have uploaded two images of my actual 2009 Pichu/Arceus card below.

The top image shows a microscopic indent at the upper right corner. I took quite a few pictures of it, but I could not capture it

very well. Among all of them, this is the best photo. The indent is very very small in the glare of that corner. The bottom image

shows the back side of the card. The lower right corner has a hairline bend. I think these two flaws are bad enough to justify

the fact that the card was overpriced.

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i don’t think you overpaid, bro. The card is incredibly rare and undervalued in my opinion. Yeah, it’s not mint, but it’s still a cool card. Not sure if the guy said it was mint, but regardless, it’s nothing to beat yourself up over.

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Yes, the guy really said it was mint. That’s why I was upset when I received the card.

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Scammers aren’t scamming you, personally. Scammers are trying to cheat anyone. If you are repeatedly getting scammed, then reconsider your approach and the ways you are allowing yourself to be scammed.

It’s great you found E4 as a resource to ask questions, but you might consider spending more time researching how to be a savvy buyer and read up on the cards you are interested in before entertaining a purchase. There are lots of posts here about scammers, their tactics, and even names of worst offenders that can help educate you. If you don’t add a little more informed skepticism to your approach you will frustrate yourself and anyone else who tries to help you.

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