A fan-made DP remake on YT, can we please get this instead?

[grandgengar]

If Arceus lives up to the hype, then we could be looking at a 25-30 million seller on the switch. The concept of the game is something that a lot of us have been waiting on since 3D graphics became possible…

[nish]

@mtajaj32

Imagine if GameFreak was actually still competent and still cared

Gamefreak isn’t developing the remakes, ILCA is

[pfm]

You necessarily have to buy the game in order to play it and determine if you like it. As mentioned, number of sales has more to do with marketing and the popularity of the franchise as a whole.

Its very clear many people were not satisfied with the game www.metacritic.com/game/switch/pokemon-sword
Even if you claim all these reviews were made in bad faith, the reality is a lot of people thought the game was mediocre. Myself and my girlfriend both contributed to the sales numbers and left feeling like it was potentially the worst in the franchise’s history. You can say that game freak didn’t have enough time, or we weren’t the target audience or whatever you want but that doesn’t change my dissatisfaction.

Moving on though, I have no strong feelings about the DP remake. The choice of a high-fidelity remake or the choice in graphical style is not inherently wrong. If you dont like those choices well then you have the entirety new adventure and more realistic graphics offered by the Arceus game to look forward to. While I agree with many of the qualms with sword and shield, I’m just not onboard with the outrage for these DP games, at least until I’m actually able to play them

[neverforget50in07]

TBH I do like the official trailer of the game better because this remake stuck to its roots of the original art style, just with updated graphics. The official version gives me more nostalgia rather than this fan made version.

[nostalgiaoldbird]

@zubat

When people starting buy a product simply because of association with a franchise instead product’s quality, it runs of risk of declining in quality. Star Wars is an example fresh in my memory. The recent Star Wars output lacks the creative genius by George Lucas, but Disney knows the formula for generating an income stream from a fan base.

Pokémon is not in a decline like Star Wars, but its important we judge the quality of the product instead of just buying it.

Very well said, couldn’t have put it better myself.

[xileets]

@stirfries

They should remake Diamond/Pearl in the original art style, but with Pokemon following them. Emerald and HGSS are the pinnacle of pokemon game design, everything else is a downgrade.

I hate the new 3D Pokemon games. Colosseum and XDGoD came out forever ago, but still look better than the modern takes on 3D Pokemon, especially in regards to battle animations

Add to that the story telling, pace, and world-flow that RSE and HGSS had, and yes, honestly, those games were the best overall media experience. I’m hopeful that things will improve with the new Arceus game, but I won’t be buying it since I have no time… lol. Hopefully, which is weird to say, that WILL be a shame.

[xileets]

@mtajaj32

@primallugia

Sword and Shield that’s apparently a ‘super terrible’ game, is the third best selling Pokémon video game ever:

https://twitter.com/SerebiiNet/status/1356135604422111235

That’s a fact and not an opinion. Clearly they’re doing something right I suppose? Did I miss something?

It’s only a minority within the community on the internet that apparently are the loudest.

In the end, you are (again) not obligated to buy the game if you don’t support the company.

It’s OK to not like something, but don’t be ignorant about it or shove your opinion in someone’s throat.

Note that I have not given my opinion about these games at all and I refuse to give my own opinion, because my opinion doesn’t matter in this discussion.

In the last presidential election, the two top candidates received a record number of votes, over 70 million each, by the electorate. That must mean they are both really great, right?

Tens of millions of people eat McDonald’s every day. Must be because of their high quality food surely?

Sword & Shield sold so well because the Pokemon brand is still riding the incredible surge from Pokemon Go, and because the games are on a wildly hot console (which, again, does not mean the console itself is inherently great–just that it’s popular).

It is this “popular = good” mentality ithat has lead to the degeneration of modern art, and it lies in parallel with the idea that “whatever makes the most money = good”. Many companies are delving their resources into mobile games because of the widespread usage of cellphones, so these games sell well and can be made quickly, and it often leads to low quality games that–while “popular”–aren’t nearly as polished or engaging or memorable or enjoyable as a game that been given time and tender care and artistic devotion. All modern American buildings are ugly gray blocks because their sponsors have no drive for beauty but rather efficiency. Michael Vick–while he had many haters–was still wildly popular even after he electrocuted, hung, and beat several dogs to death. Because he was popular doesn’t mean he was a good person. The reason why things become popular is often because the “collective” (which I suppose you could say is what determines what is and isn’t popular) is both weak in its institutional power and easily influenced and manipulated by bureaucratic and corporate leaders, and also not as capable of critical thinking and analysis and appreciation of artistuistic nuances as the individual.

The argument of popularity is illegitimate because it holds no merit on its own. There are many reasons why a person or idea or product would be “popular”, but that does not mean it is because they are inherently good or quality or optimal.

IDK about the pokemon go wave, but to partly add to your point, and to party possibly counter it, consider the following. Occasionally, a big producer will have a stroke of genius, but it’s often partly an accident. Truly good art is usually the result of an independent small project. I would put this question to the gaming community: If we want art, are we wrong to want it from big corporations who aim to make money, in the first place?

[xileets]

@primallugia

Sword and Shield that’s apparently a ‘super terrible’ game, is the third best selling Pokémon video game ever:

https://twitter.com/SerebiiNet/status/1356135604422111235

That’s a fact and not an opinion. Clearly they’re doing something right I suppose? Did I miss something?

It’s only a minority within the community on the internet that apparently are the loudest.

In the end, you are (again) not obligated to buy the game if you don’t support the company.

It’s OK to not like something, but don’t be ignorant about it or shove your opinion in someone’s throat.

Note that I have not given my opinion about these games at all and I refuse to give my own opinion, because my opinion doesn’t matter in this discussion.

The tough part about discussion is asking the right question. BUT I would ask this: Is there a significance to the fact that it’s only the 3rd highest selling? So, does that mean that the most successful pokemon can be NOW, is not as good as it was BEFORE?

For context, I don’t hate on anything. It’s not worth my time, unless it’s in a professional, functional capacity (which isn’t “hating-on” but practical debate, yata, yata…) So i personally don’t care what’s most popular, I just like to think about why the facts, as you correctly say, are indeed the facts. =)

[stirfries]

@primallugia

Sword and Shield that’s apparently a ‘super terrible’ game, is the third best selling Pokémon video game ever

I’m sure it has nothing to do with the fact that it’s on the Nintendo Switch or anything…any 1st party Pokemon game will do crazy numbers on the Switch, regardless of its quality compared to other entries in the series