2004 Tropical Wind PSA pop question

What is the difference between the no stamp and the one with no qualifiers listed?

www.psacard.com/pop/tcg-cards/2004/pokemon-world-championships-promo/87141

PSA only really recently started designating the “no stamp” variant so a lot of the population is listed under the wrong category. The vast majority of 04 wind’s that are listed in both categories are the spectator version, which is the “no stamp”.

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Yeah, I had this same confusion recently. Pbali is correct. The card without a stamp labelled “no stamp” and the card without a stamp with no qualifiers are the same card. Only difference is PSA’s label. (As Pbali clarifies below, there are also stamped versions which are categorised correctly.)

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Mostly* the same card. There are players copies that are graded correctly under the no qualifiers category.

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Just an instance of PSA being silly. “No stamp” is such a stupid label - the presence of a stamp should be the thing denoted, not the lack thereof.

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Unless the stamped card is the “standard” and the no stamp the exception. Which is the case with this card.

I disagree, I think ultimately PSA should treat the card by itself without any fancy decoration as the ‘base’ card, regardless of what came first or has a higher distribution. That way the labelling on all cards would be standardised. Imagine if 1st edition card labels made no mention of the 1st edition stamp but instead the unlimited copies said “no stamp” instead - it’d make little sense.

The lack of stamp being denoted on the label itself already implies that there is no stamp worth mentioning on the card (which isn’t the case).

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I have no clue what the reason is for calling that particular card “no stamp”, I only pointed on a different way of looking at those tournament promo cards. They are a different part of the collectors universe.

I 100% agree with you, although should we contact PSA to change JPN base ‘no rarity symbol’ to Base? And Base to ‘with rarity symbol’?

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Just wanted to step in to let people know that they aren’t the same card.

Here is a picture of one without qualifiers (notice the Worlds 04 stamp):

And here is a picture of one without the stamp (notice the lack of a Worlds 04 stamp):

The point was that PSA did not recognize the “no stamp” until recently which led to the confusion. Collectors knew but psa didnt lol

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@pokecollectoramy I was correcting greenshoots saying “The “no stamp” and the one without qualifiers are the same card.” :blush:

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Sorry - I already knew what you clarified and wasn’t suggesting otherwise. I was aware that there was a stamped version and didn’t realise that required clarification - I was only referring to the problem alluded to in the OP, which, as @pokecollectoramy explained, was that PSA has labelled some of the no stamps as “no stamp,” and then some of the no stamps as “World Championships,” even though those cards (without stamps) are the same card. I knew there was a stamped version correctly categorised under “World Championships” and was only referring to the inconsistent PSA labelling of the no stamp cards… I really assumed everyone knew that there was a correctly-labelled stamped version already, hence the purpose of a no stamp qualifier in the first place. But I’ve edited my post to avoid further confusion for future readers of this thread, as obviously it wasn’t clear

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