1st ed base set zard

Don’t ever let someone else’s opinion make your decisions. Hold as long as possible unless you need cash. People that pass all this salt also know as “bubble bath talk” are generally just jealous of what you have and are upset they missed cards they wanted before price increases. Congratulations on the 9 man!!!

i think there is no right/wrong time to sell. markets go up and down, but generally goes up. this logic follows there is no right/wrong time to buy.

@yz2428 Just like everyone else says best time to buy is yesterday. And there’s nothing wrong selling whenever anyone feels comfortable but I’m not going to be the guy that sells and watchs the price go up over the years and think man I should have waited. Yes there’s always chances of prices dropping but that’s usually temporary. Everyone has their own priorities tho and makes their own decisions. I only said something to the guy because it sounded like his decisions were being swayed by outside noise which shouldn’t matter when it’s time for someone to part with such a priced possession and most iconic set card in the hobby. @keto said he has a PSa 9 1st edition base zard and had been tempted to sell

agree, if you have no need of money, holding is the best bet. if you do have other uses, it’s not a bad time. right now, it seems there is a dry spell with supply, as many people are waiting to see how the market settles and are hodling. i’m interested to see if the buyers are going to win or sellers are going to win. if buyers continue to bite the bullet and pay record prices for the market supply, this increase should go on. if additional supply does come on the market, then we could see a bit more stability with the prices. i’ve only been back in the hobby for about 4 years, and this is a unique market i haven’t seen before. the 2017 market bump was a bit different. supply never really became constrained, in my view, and so the retrace was pretty harsh for a few years.

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Clearly I lost, one month after selling my zard 1st ed psa 9 it sells for $2k+ more
Great timing! :roll_eyes:

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Dont think that way or you will go crazy :blush: You sold for the price you wanted at the time you wanted it. Everything I sold last year has doubled. Cant live with regrets!

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Prices are up across the board, anyone who’s ever sold something is in the same boat as you, don’t feel too special :joy:

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If you needed the money, then there’s nothing you can do and you can’t blame yourself.

If you were trying to time the market, then that’s how it goes. Investing for the long-term is usually the better play.

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For once in my life I didn’t need the money so it was the latter. I had it for 5 years and figured I’d let someone else enjoy it, reinvested it into speculative metals for longterm hold.

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It’s all good, no one ever times things perfectly with their investments. And as much as I believe that Pokemon cards can be a good investment, I would never put too much of my net worth into them. Diversifying is a good life strategy.

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an 8 just sold for 7k in the UK on ebay not confirmed if the buyer paid yet i messaged the seller to find out

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I have messaged the seller, got confirmation the buyer paid.

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damn! those thick stamps!!

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Just got offered $9850 for my Charizard today. So tempting to sell but will not! I believe the PSA 9 1st ed Charizard will overpass BGS 9.5 Charizard due to PSA being a lot more reputable and well known company than BGS. Investing in pokemon is so much better than investing in the stock market. I get to enjoy what I buy(pokemon) and also see it grow(investing).

There is no reason the PSA 9 should surpass the BGS 9.5. Of course YMMV on the strengths of each 9 vs. 9.5, but a 9.5 is inherently a stronger grade. I’m not so sure why this argument comes up all the time in Pokémon. No one in the sports collecting world, which is much more mature of a market, would ever say that a PSA 9 is “more reputable”…

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I saw an argument for BGS somewhere stating, “When Gary tried to cross his PSA 10 Charizards over to BGS, they were not given the BGS 10, making them BGS 9.5s.”

That’s a very small sample size, but from what I’ve seen and heard, BGS 9.5s are at minimum PSA 9s, and depending on subs(quad 9.5/quad+/etc) they can be crossed to PSA 10s. I also do not see the logic in thinking that PSA 9s should ever surpass the price-point of BGS 9.5s.

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BGS is actually the longer running and more reputable company, despite being more niche in Pokémon. I would be shocked if a PSA 9 consistently sells for more than a BGS 9.5 given most 9.5s appear visibly cleaner than a PSA 9.

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I think it depends on the card. I once crossed a PSA 7 Alpha Black Lotus from Magic into a BGS 9. The subs in BGS are really important. A BGS 9.5 with all 9.5 or better subs should nearly always be better than a PSA 9, and sometime better than a PSA 10. I would not expect an average BGS basic sub card to cross to a PSA 10

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My mate recently crossed a psa 9 yugioh card into a BGS 10 (9.5 centering, 10 everything else).

I wouldn’t pay a premium for it tbh… it looks off centered and PSA 9 quality.

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In the end it’s up to the buyer to determine the value of the subgrades. Eye appeal is a term thrown on literally every high end sports card yet it hasn’t caught on in Pokémon yet- but it’s exactly what you’re alluding to! I agree that I’d probably value a BGS 10 with different subgrades more. But the years of sales data speaks for itself and it’s no question that for the high end of the market, BGS 10 > PSA 10 > BGS 9.5 > PSA 9.

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