I can tell you that 4k ish isn’t off the mark at all outside of efour but won’t share any more details at this juncture
Don’t forget that this thread is just the views of a few people, albeit more informed than the general populace, but still a very small sample relative to the true size of the community, and many people here are kinda (very) rose tinted about valuations. Just be patient and reach out aggressively, don’t wait for a deal to fall on your lap on efour because it won’t - you need to put in effort to hunt them on Instagram and ebay and other platforms, and always be paypal ready
Speaking from the pov of someone that can afford a Porsche (:
@sgbased I’d definitely agree that 4k is likely a more realistic price than 10k for some of these cards as far as historic prices have gone. $4k is much closer to what most 3’s and 4’s have sold for that I have heard of and I think even some 1’s and 2’s likely went around there but the thing is those are completed transactions and the cards are not actively on the market as we speak. They are in collections and the rest are still with original owners and we are literally only talking about a few dozen of these cards in total.
I think what Scott was trying to say is not that they are definitely worth 10k today, just that if you wanted to have quick success in obtaining one via an e4 buy thread you’d likely have to be closer to that ballpark with your initial offer to even start up conversations or create some new sellers from the pool of original winners. He did also say that with proper effort and a little luck you can potentially hit around the offered price.
Is it just me or do these types of trophy cards look better in screw down type cases as a pose to being graded ? To me I like the look of them plain in screw downs
The advice I am giving isn’t some “rose colored” perspective. It’s reality. What you are implying is the improbable exception, and that it is easy. Basically the classic “you can buy every card on craigslist for less”.
Also, the people who end up getting the cards for less immediately flip them for more money, at my valuation or higher.
In short, why cards can go for less is because the buyers that people will flip them to are simply unaware they were for sale. If 10k triggers people for a card with 6 copies awarded to winners, there is going to be some major butthurt when I decide to disclose actual sales, but I won’t right now at this juncture.
It also comes down to availability. If someone wants something that’s rarely seen on the market, I don’t see why you can’t suggest a price of $10k. If they want it then they will eventually pay for it. These cards don’t come around often.
Exactly! I remember when I completed my 2014 set years ago, posted a photo and turned down 10k offers per card right out of the gate, in a smaller market.
Also, the “get your name out there” perspective is true for sellers as well. People are going to be more comfortable buying from an actual business or reputable individual vs some rando on Facebook. I do it as a buyer all the time in mtg. It’s basic economics.
Pretty much spot on. It’s fairly obvious (well I reckon so) that these cards will rise are a greater rate than any other newer product or even older stuff bah 1st ed charizards and other trophy stuff. So there’s no reason why someone shouldn’t be offering a premium. Sure $10k now may seem heaps but look back in 20 years when the cards $20k or whatever it is and you’ll be gutted
