Me too, but I don´t really see the sand you´re talking about. Maybe some of it, but the true Pokémonfans are getting more and more.
I’ll believe it when they’ve been around five years or more. A year or two is nothing.
You even see it in this forum. Every cycle there are new faces, and only a few of them ultimately stick.
I’m sure it’ll continue to grow, but I’m also in the camp of this current growth rate is unsustainable. A card shouldn’t be 15k → 25k → 45k → 75k in the span of 3 months.
It doesn’t make sense why you have random slop selling for more than 1st Ed. base, trophies, or whatever else.
I also think you can reach a point where you’ll entirely lose the interest of prospective new collectors. Many people who are Gen-Z have given up on buying a house due to the financial climate we live in now. I can see people looking at the cards they desire and saying “I’m not even going to bother.”
Yes there are other products for them to buy, but there needs to be realistic aspirational goals.
Pokemon won’t become a mainstream investment because it’s entirely speculative and provides no meaningful or essential contribution that justifies it’s value. In a financial crisis it would be the first to fall, making it a poor investment relative to things like real estate. It also has associations on a broader scale that you won’t realistically separate on a mainstream level.
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This point I never really understood. I am lucky that I´m in a position where I can buy PSA 9´s (10´s are mostly out of my league as well), but if I couldn´t then I would buy an 8, or a 7.
I do get that modern cards being this expensive is stupid (I dislike that myself too). This seems to be a scalping problem and will deter some people from being able to buy the cards they want, but I´m hoping that will be fixed soon with Pokémon printing more.
I agree, but that is not the norm. There are big stagnant periods as well with cards retracing, making it less ´unorganic´ than saying it like that would make it seem.
everything about this thread feels like its custom made rage bait just for me.
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You got me. I don´t like talking about the Pokémon market. I´m all about upsetting you ; )
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I’m waiting for basically everything to price out that people do an about-face on rarity. Inb4 modern commons are the stonk
The sand that @c0ll3ct0r and I are talking about mainly apply to modern (which to some degree props up all of Pokemon since it’s the latest and greatest)
High pop
Mass qty perfectly preserved by adults
Worldwide availability
Collective mindsets of “only up”
However vintage is just as distressing lately with people lacking the critical understanding of certain market aspects. The low pop = 15k bubble on things like reverse holos or certain mid era cards is partly dangerous because people don’t understand why they’re low pop
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Yeah, I agree on a lot. A lot of it seems off, but it´s also true that people like us (I thought this as well) have been saying this for years, with Pokémon only getting stronger.
Will the bottom fall out of modern? I used to say probably. Now I say maybe.
Calmness is relative
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It is literally impossible for the market to keep growing at the same tempo that it has over the last couple of years, it would shatter the reality of economics.
The same exponential growth as the last few years would have a PSA 10 Expedition Mew being a decent trade for the Mona Lisa within a decade.
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One can dream ; ) However, vintage hasn´t risen that much in the past 6 years. Let´s take the Neo Lugia and Ho-oh as examples;
Late 2020; 100K+/5K. Early 2026; 300K(?)/15K.
We are still boomin
Please keep booming at 2000% per year. I don’t wanna work til I’m 80.
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Must be a good discussion then ; ) A lot of things change every week.
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My guess is they have a movie to revive interest planned for any said crashes lol
Isn’t it odd we haven’t seen one, keep that ace up their sleeve.
These types of manic market conversations only happen during a boom.
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this is 100% correct, doesn’t mean we aren’t seeing the same type of appreciation we saw in the US Stock market from post Dot Com to US Housing Crisis era. Things that were very undervalued tend to go from one extreme to another especialy the this era of hype and boom, bust, regret? pokrmon wont die
pokemon cards were always exspensive, they were never diert creap like 90’a era wax