What is it with online herd mentality on social media?

On YouTube, TikTok, and especially discord servers (excluding e4 discord), I’ve been seeing a lot of weird things going on. People are still complaining about scalpers ruining everything even though prices are down, and people are buying cards simply because they’re up. If a card is expensive, you hear all about it like “Isn’t this an awesome card?” or “top 10 cards ever” but when it’s expensive it’s like you don’t hear about it again. If you bring up points about scalpers not ruining the hobby to the extent you say it is, you immediately get attacked. On TikTok, it’s like a bunch of people who just joined the hobby saying stuff they know nothing about. Idk how many times I’ve seen a “unpopular opinion” in Pokemon collecting that was not either the most obvious thing or most outrageous.

What is it with social media that enables such mentality, and why are there so many people in the hobby that just jump on the newest bandwagon without thinking for themselves?

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Just look at every other area of social media, it’s not just card collecting. People want to be a part of the trend, to feel like they’re included. They got the newest thing just to show people they could even if they don’t like it or truly want it deep down.

And with the fast pace social trends, people always are looking for the next best thing. Vicious cycle

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Something to keep in mind is that the loudest opinions are not necessarily the most prevalent.

Content creators are also incentivized to post devisive opinions that will generate engagement, doesn’t matter the quality of engagement.

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Your problem is going on tiktok and reading comments. People are just stupid frankly.

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In the age of information people will always do whats in their best interest to generate engagement. I tend to stray away from it, but some people are so brainwashed by it they can only see one side of any story.

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I agree with the others. It’s just how things work nowadays in a lot of hobbies: people love being part of a trend, and they’re fairly superficial in that regard. It’s also part of the reason why the enshittification of mainstream things is real.

It’s scary, but when a random common set card stonks, now the most likely culprit is some dumb TikTok meme or cringe YouTube challenge.

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It is not only social media. Humans by nature are social animals and we have always survived and evolved being a part of a tribe or a herd.

Sometimes the herd is right and sometimes they are wrong. It is your responsibility as an individual to decide which is which (based on your reasoning, values, morality) . If you care and you think the herd is wrong, it should also be your responsibility to share that with the herd. You may eventually find out that your judgement is correct or you may end up learning something.

If it is not your herd, then don’t let their actions or opinions govern your mental peace and outlook of the hobby.

Remember, even cowards are bold in group and weak people can be murderers in a mob. So choose your battles wisely.

Cheers!

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I was thinking about yesterday how I’m old enough to remember payphones, and not just as some endangered relic of days gone by but as in mom having to make a call to grandma before the train home and I get to put in the coins and press the metal buttons because it’s fun to do. Then you get about 5 minutes or whatever it was unless you put more coins in. That was the way before the first Nokia.

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today you learned how social media works

delete it all and be free

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There are a lot of good points above.

Discord servers are usually an echo chamber of a general sentiment. People join them as part of a community, often with similar attitudes and/or opinions. If it’s a creator’s discord it’s not unreasonable to assume the majority will align with that creator’s opinion.

If you tune into a pack opening stream of a streamer who knows nothing about the cards or hobby (doesn’t have to be Pokemon), they’ll see something shiny – they’ll go “WOAHHHHHH BIG HIT!!” – and their chat will reflect that hype with “CRAZY PULL!!!”, “GRADE IT”, or “W”

Moreover, big numbers turn heads and get attention, that’s just the way it is. Dota 2 kept getting attention and press for its leading tournament ‘The International’ simply by having the largest prize pool of any esport, despite it not being the most popular. Frankly, that’s why I started playing it when I was your age, @Vertemes. Once the prize pool was reduced to an industry standard, its viewership dropped. We’re a greedy species and we’re fascinated by what we perceive as easy money. Ignorant people hear about cardboard being worth tens of thousands, or millions, and they flock to the attic thinking they might have the next Wayne Gretzky, Honus Wagner, Jordan, Illustrator, or Action Comics #1.

I also think your point about the discourse around

can be applied to our way of framing everything in this age. The term “GOAT” has become such a nothing term with how frivolously it’s thrown around and applied. The acronym literally stands for ‘Greatest of All Time’. By definition this should mean one. Yet somehow every fortnight we now have a Thursday game between two GOATs in the NBA. Laymen listen to the pundits, and the pundits are incentivised to get traction and engagement. When the JP PLAY Esp/Umb sold recently every owner of that card couldn’t help but post their own copy to their story or make a post about it. Posting to Instagram isn’t for the tenured hobbyist or pundit, because we’ve all read about them before and are familiar with the cards. We don’t need to read about them for the eighty-eigth time. Those posts are either for circle-jerking purposes or to garner engagement from the uneducated (different to collection update posts, which are usually supportive ones amongst friends).

People also have an extremely short attention span and memory. If you take something out of the limelight for even just a couple of weeks, most people without specialised knowledge will focus on something else. This is why there’s also a high turnover in the hobby of “collectors”, because people enter and exit just as quickly. People gravitate to the flavour of the month thing, which in 2020 was Pokemon. Now we also have sub-categories of FotM within Pokemon, which is most evident with new sets. A lot of set cards are expensive on release, then drop significantly when people forget about them.

@thsigma is very correct, people are stupid. They’ll parrot anything, ESPECIALLY if they like the person saying it. People think they have a clue. They (often) don’t.

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Think of how stupid the average person is.

Now assuming a normal distribution curve, 50% of people are stupider than that.

In my opinion we reached peak species intelligence around 25 years ago.

Now it’s just a slow collective decline for the masses. Many are susceptible to AI brain rot content, conspiracies and massive levels of misinformation.

It is no longer about who is right. It’s about who’s is first, and who shouts loudest.

GG Humans. GG.

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the last two words in your title is the answer

People are naturally social creatures, so we look to find acceptance in groups. However, the “herd mentality” is dangerous because it’s made people so intolerant of ideas or opinions that run contrary to the group. Algorithms often push people towards a particular ideology by enabling a feedback loop of only showing them news or opinions they want to see. Over time, cult-like bubbles form and people who have a differing view on anything are shunned, de-humanized and labeled as an evil monster. This is how people can convince themselves to justify violence against someone they don’t agree with.

While the need to socialize and be accepted is something innate in all of us, social media has grown into something that can be potentially destructive.

wats ticktock

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I second this response. I think it’s also nice to surround yourself with people who challenge you as it will help you grow along the way. Thanks for the post.

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Specifically with Pokemon, the general hype of this period of time has increased reach which greatly increase the proportion of new people in the hobby who don’t know much. Then on top of that, pretty much all social media algorithms inadvertently push content that gets people upset, regardless of how true it is. Then the result is what you describe.

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And at least 50% of those people have some malignant concoction of psychopathologies, intensifying and replicating with each passing day of chronic social media use.

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Almost like fork knife, the games kids like to play play these day

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It’s a place for the modern cabal