What happens when vintage packs run out?

What happens when the world runs out of vintage booster packs, even at $3,000/piece?

No new content will be able to be generated based on vintage product.

Will we see an increase in gold stars, errors, misprints, etc?

Will we see an exodus to LaBuBu or other next best thing?

What is the consensus here? Do they go to $10k or do they fade into obscurity?

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This reminds me of an old @smpratte video where he mentioned something like

“Every booster box open is one less out in the world”

Not the answer you’re looking for, but it’s something I resonated with it after all these years.

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It keeps turning

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This is why we need to document now…

Based fossil🤙

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Pokemon will follow MTG. Some packs will get stupidly expensive. Others will hit a value that few people are willing to push beyond and they’ll stay there. It’s the natural course of limited sealed collectibles.

I don’t think packs increasing in value due to scarcity will massively impact graded or ungraded card markets. At least, this is what has happened in MTG.

For example, an MTG Arabian Nights Booster Box is multiple hundreds of thousands of dollars. If it rose to one million dollars, the set will not magically become more expensive. Prices of graded and ungraded cards move independently of the underlying sealed product after so much time has passed.

While the supply of packs/boxes can only ever decrease after it becomes out-of-print, the supply of raw cards can only ever increase or stay the same. And in 2025 with Kurt’s Creme, we’re now seeing that the Gem Mint / Mint pops can increase over time, even if new product isn’t opened as aggressively due to card altering.

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I wonder if the Pokemon tcg will even be relevant by that point. I think many people in their life think that nostalgia exists for them in the moment, and Id be curious to see how popular pokemon is when most of us here are another 50 years older. The mind makes me want to say of course it will, but its difficult to say looking at it through our own individual lives.

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But it is on an entirely different trajectory from MTG, people will currently trample you to buy new releases. It is an unusual dichotomy I don’t know if we have seen before. Vintage being essentially opened into oblivion meanwhile new releases are consistently out of stock.

There are still sports packs that are over 50 years old out there and relatively affordable. I don’t think we’ll run out anytime soon.

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“good” packs

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No comprendo

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IF it is indeed the last pack. There will be no more vintage pack openings, and people will have to resort to streaming old episodes of TCA Gaming, Unlisted Leaf, or Leonheart… depending on the vibe they want. :laughing:


Why would the supply of Raw increase? You mean, that as packs are cracked, there are more raw? But grading reduces raw, so…

Eventually, the risk is simply too great. And for those that trample others or get fight bite in Target parking lots, the risk is still either too great, or the stories of losing losses will quickly decimate their hype.

You’re right that we’re in a new era right now, but I think it echoes similar trends in other spaces. Sports betting, risk-seeking investments. Whether it happens now from hype or later from organic practice and demand, most sealed will be opened, and I personally, could not care less, aside from the history of the thing.

Also, consider as there are fewer boxes left, owners are even less likely to open it, and there are collectors who HAVE their sealed, will keep it sealed, and one likely already has that final sealed box. Time will merely tell, who.

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Vintage sealed may fade but sealed vintage will last forever. :sparkles: :poop:

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Akabane will just print more.

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I think Dill was saying as more packs are opened, there are more physical copies of cards avaialble. Over time though, the actual number of copies could decrease with attrtition. Raw/graded aside, there is a finite number of cards, excluding the theories of vintage being reprinted or faked.

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Would be funny if they just start reprinting :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

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Id actually be curious as to how many influencers will just reseal their vintage packs for future views to keep their channel relevant. Most of the time its all smoke and mirrors anyways, so why not fog it up more, no?

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Its a cycle and as long as Pokemon is appealing to the next generation you always have at least 3 of them going at once. Childhood/Adulthood/Parent over and over. All three into Pokemon and supported by a handful of pillars, play/video/anime/cards. It is not a generation and done model. Pokemon is procuring the next and the next at the same time.

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I take it that the definition of “vintage” here is Base Set through Call of Legends or something like that. Or maybe just WOTC stuff?

Does the scope/definition of “vintage” expand/change over time to include newer packs? If so, then packs wouldn’t run out as newer old packs join the “vintage” club.

What would happen is that you have different classes/tiers of “vintage” and, yeah, the current “vintage” stuff will dry up eventually.

Perhaps people will begin ripping theme decks not for the gamble but because fixed-rarity products are the final frontier of sealed products to rip :winking_face_with_tongue:

Honestly though, I think that people will just move onto ripping Black & White and XY and Sun & Moon packs. Eventually the kids who grew up with those sets will be adults and will want to re-collect their childhood and the people who are currently sitting on those sealed products will begin to sell off and realize those gains meanwhile content creators will begin ripping said packs for views.

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