Just because you felt that it is overboard to make a post about this person doesnt mean it should not have been posted in the first place.
How does this practise being not “uncommon” allow you to downplay it like that? It is precisely the lack of follow-up actions where people treat it as just another normal flipper move, that more find it acceptable to learn and continue doing the same.
Why are you so protective of this guy, do you know him personally?
I dont think calling him a scumbag, saying they dont have integrity, and that i’d never want anything to do with them buying or selling, gives the impression that I know them which i dont (spoiler, i stick to myself and know very few people into pokemon).
I’ve given my thoughts that sum up to mrtz may be venting in frustration because it sucks to have something you are so close to pulled away when you thought you did everything right. Calling the guy out, go for it. Blasting him directly in a topic dedicated just to blasting him, for me is a half step to far.
Ive expressed that it shouldnt have happened, have empathized with him that it sucks, wished mrtz the best in the future, so im not sure where Im the bad guy for not jumping on the “spend my efforts actively hating this guy” bandwagon.
For the record, mrtz seems chill and while we may disagree on this topic, my overall opinion of them hasnt changed that they seem chill.
I mean, the guy offered proxy buying as a service. Mrtz sent him money to buy this card. This wasn’t a situation where he fronted the money and there was a handshake agreement that he would later sell the card to mrtz.
If you send someone money to buy something, I’m of the belief that makes it your property. This guy effectively used mrtz’s money as a flipping capital loan. He wouldn’t have been able to make any money on this card if mrtz didn’t send him the full purchase price of the card in advance.
I don’t think the thread is overly aggressive or hateful. It lays out what happened in a factual manner, with evidence to support the claims. Perhaps there could be fewer expletives, but if I was in this situation I don’t think I would act much different
Is there a Giant IG Garbage Thread yet?
I apologize, i have no clue who the IG user is or if they are a big name. I must be more conservative than most about my thoughts on when ownership happens. I’ll see about keeping that in check for future conversations.
In this case it is unfortunate that mrtz tipped them off on a good card, gave them the capital to essentially earn $900, and not only didnt get the card but only got a 3% payment for all that. This isnt really the hill I care to die on, that would be that beckett slabs feel like bricks, so I think i’ll try to be done.
Sorry to hear this happening to you. It was a frustrating read. The “Don’t worry, I didn’t screw you over for $500. But I will for $800” was pretty bad. Hope the card finds a way into your collection sooner than later.
Bro literally put a price on his reputation
yeah, it’s https://www.instagram.com/
Haha you got a chuckle out of me, a good one
I’m sorry to hear your story mrtz, you don’t deserve to be cheated on a purchase.
From the messages it’s clear that Moes.Cards was trying to manipulate you for personal gain. Fair game to let everyone know he has a manipulative personality, especially since he’s in the people business.
He only wanted $50 for the effort which to me means he probably had closed a deal for hundreds less than he told you already.
It’s one of those legal - yes, moral - no type things. You’ll fall on either side of that.
Sucks though, there’s a few low population 10 raichu cards I would love to have people keep an eye out for and I would be just as annoyed as you if it happened to me.
This kind of thing happens in sports but there is always a “broker fee” so that the dealer always makes a little money especially because if you are willing to drop 3k on a card it’s likely that another 10k can come through eventually down the line too. And getting 3-5% solely for sourcing is a very simple margin game to play for a dealer compared to trying to predict the market.
I don’t think this level of formality is in Pokémon (especially since sports often involves actual clients who own businesses that just like cards—the formality needs to be there).
Hope you are able to find another one soon and I appreciate you posting this!
Sounds like you gave a random seller a small loan for $100 interest.
Very sorry this happened to you @mrtz . It is not a good feeling and it was also sad to read the whole exchange.
I know you will have the card someday, probably it was meant for you to wait a bit longer. I will keep an eye out myself and notify if I come across this card.
Cheers!
I am in full support of blasting this person for conducting business in an unprofessional manner. Behaviors won’t be corrected without stories like this being shared.
This guy might clean up his act. Others that are all about the money might see this and think differently on how they will behave in the future.
Scummy move. That dude sucks.
I feel like if I was offering to buy a card for someone at a convention, I’d buy it and it would go straight into my backpack and that would be that until I got back home. The fact that he was so immediately up front about flipping it and that he got someone to buy it so quickly means he was probably actively trying to sell it.
If you bought a card specifically just for someone else, there shouldn’t even be a situation where someone would even have the opportunity to offer you something for it. He was definitely actively trying to flip it and you wanting the card was just his fallback so that he wouldn’t be out $3k if he couldn’t flip it. Wouldn’t be surprised if this was his intention from the start.
Dude was so proud to share it on Instagram too. “Bought for client” aka try to flip with no downside risk if it doesn’t sell.
Yup, advertising on his story to find potential buyers.
I get where both of you are coming from, but he used a customer’s paid card as a stepping stone to make profit. That’s a little shitty. He should have either given you the option to flip it and split the profit or at least just split the profit with you, but just going ahead and doing it is not cool.
And he probably wasn’t going to buy that card and try to flip it at the event himself unless someone asked for him to look for it, why does he get to profit on your dime?
