Tracking 1999 Pokemon PSA 10 Base Set 1st Edition

A PSA 9 Mewtwo sold for $9,883.67 yesterday (11,500 Canadian dollars).

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I think you’re off on the conversion rate here. The PSA 9 Mewtwo did sell for $11.5k CAD, but that converts for something closer to $8.75k USD.

At some point, I’m going to update 5 or 6 of the Holos to EST, reflecting both EST sales price today - AND - the latest selling price. I think we’ll get a better view of set value today.

I will take a conservative view - vs - pushing the boundaries.

For instance, Chansey hasn’t sold in quite some time. I had a low end EST of $20,000 on Chansey, but I am aware of actual offers rejected at $35,000 and $40,000 by members of this board. A placeholder of $35,000 is safe. Likely low. If it actually went to a competitive bid, I believe with almost no doubt that it would blow past that significantly.

In the same time, I want to hold to the objective - to earnestly report the valuation of the set.

I’m open to your thoughts on individual holos that haven’t transacted in awhile, your conservative and market value (if auction) estimates.

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In my opinion, for the PSA 10 holos that have not sold in a while but for which we do have recent and credible PSA 9 sales data, using a 3x multiplier for the PSA 10s compared to the PSA 9s would be an extremely reasonable and conservative estimate, considering that typically we’re talking about more of a 4-5x multiplier for the holos (and much more in the case of the lowest pop holos like Chansey and Hitmonchan).

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I think that’s a very reasonable approach.

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I like the concept but i think it has to be on a card by card basis. If you look at the PSA 9 prices for cards like Chansey, clefairy, hitmonchan, magneton, nidoking, ninetales, zapdos etc and multiply by 3, the prices aren’t really close to PSA 10 prices in my opinion. That being said, it’s better than completely outdated values. But like you said, it would be a very conservative estimate.

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I think what I’ll do is use guidelines like the 3X rule, make an estimate, keep it conservative, communicate what method that particular card estimate is being provided, and show the last sale. All. Keep it transparent.

With that said, I have no doubt this crew will communicate openly if something smells bad. :blush:

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Shoot, thanks, you’re very right. I don’t know why ebay suggested that conversion to me.

At this point, the demand of the product will decide the price. There is no specific multiplier that you can add. Once these cards begin to barely pop up on ebay, people are going to pay way above any multiplier because of their scarcity. I think having a rough estimate is good, but its going to heavily depend on the person buying.

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ebay may include some charges. i know when i bought an international sale recently, there was i think 3-5% upcharge, which was worked into the conversion (or may be paypal as well)…also, eBay does not use the conversion rate you see on google, which is the rate financial institutions get, which we will never obtain as consumers, and eBay will not get that rate either.

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from my experience ebay and PayPal conversion rates are usually much worse than if you have your bank do the conversion for you

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This. There’s even credit cards that offer 0 conversion fees, but usually it’s somewhere around 2% through your bank/CC and closer to 3% if you let PayPal do the conversion for you. This can add up to quite a lot when buying thousands of dollars.

I vote for waiting for actual sales to update the values.
Multiples won’t really help because some cards have a 3-1 but otters have a 7-1.

We all know the prices are going up- a lot.

Do we need to guess on prices for a price tracker?

Yep, I vote it to stay a tracker, not an estimater.

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Somebody mentioned offers of 35k minimum for a 10 Chansey. Where do I find them?

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www.ebay.com/itm/1st-Edition-1999-Pokemon-Base-Set-1-Alakazam-Holo-PSA-10/383774986998?hash=item595ac592f6:g:ujwAAOSwxW9fkHy9

finally, a psa 10 alakazam up for auction.

The buy section. Someone posted there

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In our very own Buy section, crow is offering 40k :wink:
www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-10-1st-ed-base-chansey-40-000-and-more/25356/1

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Let us know when you finalize that deal for 40k so we can update the tracker!
Congrats Crow!!

Yep best decision was to find a 0% conversion rate CC, has saved me so much money