Thoughts on 4th print base?

[pikachutcg]

@pr0fessor0ak

It might be heavy in my opinion.

Have bought 30 of the packs from Poland.

9/30 between 21.30 - 21.60
21/30 between 20.75 - 21.05

So I would consider my 9 packs heavy.

We may have used the same seller, if you ever open up any be sure to share

[dizzylochs]

With people being priced out of 1st and shadowless, I could imagine a world in where it becomes the more affordable rare variation of base that more people would go for.

[jaredschallenge]

@pokenoob

@pikachutcg

. I won’t be opening my heavy pack any time soon though to find out

That pack is heavy because there’s a big extra sticker on the back…

I have some 99 2000 base packs that weigh 20.65ish light and 21.05ish heavy with jo stickers. That’s probably heavy

[jaredschallenge]

@bartallen2

@modestmudkip

Did Gary really create shadowless as a term? Thats super cool

Yeah, @garyis2000 originally named it ‘No Shadow’, to which PSA eventually extended it to the term ‘Shadowless’ based on Gary’s extensive contributions.

A point of contention, for me personally, is that because “Base 2000” is more than just a variation in copyright insignia as it has numerable discernible traits. This was the last of the four Base Sets variants - so why not create a name to distinguish it? Such as: Base 2000, Eighth, Ultimate, Omega, Terminus, etc ~ It’s still being classified as Unlimited on CGC’s census.

I think 8th unlimited run or last unlimited run would be cool as a designation

[bartallen2]

@dizzylochs

With people being priced out of 1st and shadowless, I could imagine a world in where it becomes the more affordable rare variation of base that more people would go for.

A very important point ~

[brofessorchaos]

is there an easy way to find these ‘base 2000’ cards (trying to complete a Venusaur collection)? if i search base 2000 on ebay it gives me base set 2 cards, so im literally looking at every base unlimited listed and checking the year on the bottom. to say the least its a headache!

[Taigataipan]

@brofessorchaos
Change search word to “venusaur 1999-2000”, helps alot even when all 4th print cards are harder to locate nowadays compared to 5 years ago.
www.ebay.com/itm/VENUSAUR-1999-POKEMON-ENGLISH-BASE-GAME-SET-UNLIMITED-HOLO-15-PSA-8-NM-MT/203145587105?hash=item2f4c6ba9a1:g:pYkAAOSwCU9fjXiJ

[gottaketchumall]

The Poland seller is legit. Has a seemingly endless supply of the packs with the stickers on the back. I’ve gotten hundreds pf packs from him over the years and though there are some 1999 holos my 1999-2000 rate has been solid. PSA 10 rate is good too. It’s crazy because he pretty much sells at regular base unlimited market price and in my experiences it’s been unweighed and fair.

I did have one god awful bit of luck recently and ran the odds to be 1:500 for my single batch. (1 holo out of 21 packs). It happened at a great time as by the time they reached me the per pack price shot up about $200 each so even as light packs I made money. Some will read that and say I got scammed and 99.99% of people on the buying end of that would assume they were, but the fact is with 500 buyers of 21 packs 1 of them statistically “should” get only one holo. To be similarly 1:500 lucky on 21 packs one would need to get 13 holos to counteract my bad luck and in the past I’ve seen crazy rates. It just the fact when you arent buying sealed boxes you dont get that 1:3 “guarantee”. Looking back at some historical data even with the 1:21 bad batch I am still at just slightly over 1 holo per 3 packs.

I’ve always been able to earn a decent premium on these holos too. Not so much at all on the non holo base starters but they match the insane prices of the unlimited ones currently.

[lyleberr]

Just a tidbit that I’ve seen, prices for 1999-2000 decks have all been higher than the standard unlimited version for the past year at least, although the sellers have been relatively few and generally do label it 4th print/edition. Interestingly enough, besides the copyright information being different on the deck, the boxes also use the “nintendo international license product” seal instead of the “official nintendo product seal”. Hopefully it doesnt become a mainstream thing since I’m still missing zap, brushfire, and overgrowth boxes.

[Dizzle]

My thought on 4th print base: Its the 4th print of base set.

Thats about as far as it goes for me.

[nppokemon]

I’m trying to finish my Holo set of these and it becoming a process. Hard to find some decent ones for sale at the moment.

[pr0fessor0ak]

@pikachutcg

@pr0fessor0ak

It might be heavy in my opinion.

Have bought 30 of the packs from Poland.

9/30 between 21.30 - 21.60
21/30 between 20.75 - 21.05

So I would consider my 9 packs heavy.

We may have used the same seller, if you ever open up any be sure to share

Now I couldn’t resist. I just opened a 21.30 pack. It was indeed heavy with a holo AND the 1999-2000 copyright date yay

[Quuador]

@pr0fessor0ak

@pikachutcg

We may have used the same seller, if you ever open up any be sure to share

Now I couldn’t resist. I just opened a 21.30 pack. It was indeed heavy with a holo AND the 1999-2000 copyright date yay

Which Holo did you pull?

Greetz,
Quuador

[tfgh]

While I doubt it will ever see the prices or popularity of something like Shadowless, I think there will always be collectors who like to have something different or want to have every version of a card. This print run is certainly rare, especially the holos. Even though this is known to be the UK print run, as a UK based collector I have none. Since I am not collecting these that doesn’t bother me but I think that people underestimate just how few are out there compared to Unlimited.

[gott006]

Ive opened a 21.30 range pack too and was heavy. Pulled a magneton.

[pr0fessor0ak]

@Quuador

@pr0fessor0ak

Now I couldn’t resist. I just opened a 21.30 pack. It was indeed heavy with a holo AND the 1999-2000 copyright date yay

Which Holo did you pull?

Greetz,
Quuador

Was a Clefable. Super clean front only a little bit of silvering on the left.
Only to look on the back and se no whitening but having a printline top to buttom far right.

[kollectork]

It is niche, but with the size of the market today I believe it will eventually catch fire as collectors become more seasoned. Gotta Ketchum All

[bartallen2]

@nppokemon

I’m trying to finish my Holo set of these and it becoming a process. Hard to find some decent ones for sale at the moment.

It’s a tall order as of late, but I have a feeling you will: best of luck

[pikachutcg]

@pr0fessor0ak

@Quuador

Which Holo did you pull?

Greetz,
Quuador

Was a Clefable. Super clean front only a little bit of silvering on the left.
Only to look on the back and se no whitening but having a printline top to buttom far right.

Do you mean a Clefairy?
Clefable would mean you opened a Base Set 2 pack (Base set 2 does have 1999-2000 on it as well)

[pr0fessor0ak]

@pikachutcg

@pr0fessor0ak

Was a Clefable. Super clean front only a little bit of silvering on the left.
Only to look on the back and se no whitening but having a printline top to buttom far right.

Do you mean a Clefairy?
Clefable would mean you opened a Base Set 2 pack (Base set 2 does have 1999-2000 on it as well)

Haha yeah ofc