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Honestly it’s fascinating to see each community’s average response and how they are different from each other.
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The response from r pokeinvesting has me convinced we are about 3-6 months away from a crash of some kind. It is irrational exuberance consistent with the height of a bubble.
Maybe the bubble doesn’t pop by December, but there has to be some sort of limit to the insanity.
I recently sold a couple of cards I thought would never sell, so it seems like a good time to purge that type of stuff
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to be fair, irrational exuberance is just a core tenet of any hype community like that, or the gamestop stock subreddit, the latter of which is going through some of the sketchiest times for the stock rn but everyone’s still bubbly and excited
Came here to post something similar.
Traded into a bubble mew for about £600 earlier on in the year. It’s now over £1400 … mental.
I should sell it really, but I bought it for my PC so there it will remain.
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It’s wild to me that what is supposed to be a “serious” investment community constantly talks about buying what’s already at ATH and not buying what has the lowest risk of loss, especially in this kind of market.
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Do you want to explain a bit about the sub-markets?
I think unlike r mtgfinance, which at one point sort of had some veneer of seriousness because the value of an MTG card, at least previously, had some correlation to it’s utility, r pokeinvesting has always been a way to manipulate the market by “investors” who congregate on other platforms.
With that said r mtgfinance was also full of pump posts as well. I.e posting a buy out that was already completed to dump the bought out specs.
Both subreddits are basically unusable outside of a place to pump crap.
Classes of Pokemon cards differ dramatically in terms of fundamentals. So much so that it’s totally plausible (and, imo, probable) that some classes will collapse while others do well.
To illustrate:
One class of cards is modern chase cards:
- Tens of thousands of copies are being perfectly preserved and graded (as reflected by the massive populations, which also happen to be nowhere near fleshed out)
- A significant proportion of sealed product is being opened by adults (aka people who are much more condition and value conscious)
- Unfathomable quantities of sealed product are being kept sealed (ensuring consistent future mint supply of the cards)
- The cards have no established history of organic collector demand
- They were printed and released during the all-time high point in Pokemon print runs (confirmed by TPCi) and all-time high speculation (look no further than the fact that r/PokeInvesting has 260,000 subscribers)
etc.
On the far other end of the spectrum, you have PSA 10 gold stars:
- When these were released, children comprised the vast majority of collector base; there weren’t yet adults who grew up with Pokemon cards and then returned to the hobby like we have now (and so relatively few copies were well preserved)
- Third-party grading didn’t really catch until over a decade of attrition had occurred
- There are negligible quantities left of the sealed product from which these came (meaning there’s no reliable source of consistent future gem mint supply)
- There’s a long history of organic collector demand for these cards (collectors wanted them even when Pokemon cards weren’t in vogue)
- Print runs were at their lowest point in the history of the TCG
This does NOT mean that PSA 10 gold stars aren’t insanely overvalued. Frankly, my opinion is that they are lol. But they undeniably have a basically perfect storm of extraordinary fundamentals.
Whereas PSA 10 modern chase cards have a basically perfect storm of terrible fundamentals.
For the same reason that no sane person views Action Comics #1 and 90s speculative boom comics as belonging to the same class of collectibles, it would be absurd to view PSA 10 Moonbreon and PSA 10 Rayquaza gold star as at all comparable, let alone to imply that their values are tied together over the long term in any meaningful way. No, PSA 10 GS Ray isn’t Action Comics #1–but its fundamentals are about as different from Moonbreon’s as Action Comics #1’s fundamentals are from 90s comics.
(Note: didn’t use PSA 10 1st Ed Base holos as an example because those are much more obviously “vintage” and “original” than the gold stars. Gold stars make for a better comparison since they were released by Nintendo + long after the discontinuation of the 1st edition stamp.)
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It’s because those items are what they’ve all hedged their financial success on. You’ll never get an unbiased analysis of anything on there. Anybody new to that sub is just meat headed to the grinder.
To any potential lurkers on here thinking about going to r/pokeinvesting to ask about what you should buy with your money: If you have to ask at all, the real answer is nothing.
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7x Hidden Legends boxes
OR
100x Evolving Skies boxes
OR
1x 1st Edition Base box
It’s honestly insane to me how low 1st Ed Base is (especially with that provenance) given what other sets are selling for.
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prolly coz those seem “cheap” by comparison to all the other full arts but ya a lot of those are like $1 or less raw 
or at least they were
you can follow the exact opposite advice that sub posts and prolly do better than them like a reverse kramer kinda thing
As I get older (Yes I’m still a teen) and in 11th Grade, I’ve realized that theres really no reason to truly stress or even put your own attention into the stuff that others do with pokemon cards,even if its scalping.. Ive also found no reason to open packs because the singles I resell make me enough money to buy the cards I want (provided they’re under 300 bucks). However cliche it may be, lifes too short to give a fuck about uncontrollable values and base the stuff on the true values: Friends, Family, and Rayquaza.
“Most people give a fuck about the little stuff because they have no other fucks to give” - Some random dude I forgot.
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Hey. I am selling (auctioning) 3 raw cards on ebay. Its seems I’ve got a bot a shill bidder driving up the price. WTF I though that was a service cheaters used. What is the point of random bots?
How do you know it’s a shill bidder, would you care to share the auctions that you’re worried about?
https://www.ebay.com/usr/fue_4446?_trksid=p2471758.m4792
He’s bid on all 3 cards sold, In a bid war on one, new and biding on cards of different prices.