The Giant English Market Thread

[ccrntrade]

@wipo5547

What did you guys think about the PWCC monthly auction results last night? I was watching shadowless 8/9, 1st ed jungle/fossil/neo 9s and they all seemed to go for the usual ebay sale prices.

www.elitefourum.com/t/the-pwcc-megathread/18812/1

[kevinertia]

the current market in a nutshell

[2007jasdip]

Each to their own.

[wisewailmer]

@2007jasdip

@kevinertia

the current market in a nutshell

The prices for mint raw and graded celebrations cards is pretty mind blowing in my opinion when you look at what the original versions of the same cards are selling for given the overall pullback in prices. I struggle to understand which pool of buyer specifically are buying these types of cards, I mean 510 dollars is alot of money even in todays standard for a single graded card and you could get a WOTC unlimited psa 10 , a good 1st Ed PSA 9, excellent condition level complete binder collections for that price.

Each to their own.

Best time to consolidate vintage into the people who know whats up. Pokemon is so mainstream now that I truly believe the days of finding raw 1st ed base holos on ebay from sellers who are just cleaning out attics are coming to a close

[Cerulean]

@wisewailmer

@2007jasdip

The prices for mint raw and graded celebrations cards is pretty mind blowing in my opinion when you look at what the original versions of the same cards are selling for given the overall pullback in prices. I struggle to understand which pool of buyer specifically are buying these types of cards, I mean 510 dollars is alot of money even in todays standard for a single graded card and you could get a WOTC unlimited psa 10 , a good 1st Ed PSA 9, excellent condition level complete binder collections for that price.

Each to their own.

Best time to consolidate vintage into the people who know whats up. Pokemon is so mainstream now that I truly believe the days of finding raw 1st ed base holos on ebay from sellers who are just cleaning out attics are coming to a close

I’ll even go as far to say that the same thing applies to non-holos. Mint WOTC cards are getting harder and harder to find.

[wisewailmer]

@Cerulean

@wisewailmer

Best time to consolidate vintage into the people who know whats up. Pokemon is so mainstream now that I truly believe the days of finding raw 1st ed base holos on ebay from sellers who are just cleaning out attics are coming to a close

I’ll even go as far to say that the same thing applies to non-holos. Mint WOTC cards are getting harder and harder to find.

This may be the very last big consolidation period we have. Not to say prices wont or cant go down, but the transferal of high end stuff into a select relatively small group is happening quietly behind the scenes (or maybe not so quietly but it seems quiet in comparison to all this modern, youtuber drama, market watch, grading closures and scalping going on)

[c0ll3ct0r]

@wisewailmer

the transferal of high end stuff into a select relatively small group is happening quietly behind the scenes (or maybe not so quietly but it seems quiet in comparison to all this modern, youtuber drama, market watch, grading closures and scalping going on)

Astute observation, I completely agree.

[kingboo64]

@lamplamp

“…Opportunity to purchase graded cards directly from Aoki’s collection…”

^ this is the part that makes me laugh the most

If you win, you could have the chance to PERSONALLY give Aoki money!!!

[pokecollectoramy]

@kevinertia

the current market in a nutshell

The fact that people are risking $150 to grade these cards and are still being rewarded to do so is absolutely mind blowing to me. The pops on these easy to grade, non-vintage, non-rare cards are going to be massive.

[kevinertia]

@pokecollectoramy

The fact that people are risking $150 to grade these cards and are still being rewarded to do so is absolutely mind blowing to me. The pops on these easy to grade, non-vintage, non-rare cards are going to be massive.

Shoutouts to whoever paid $150 to grade a $5 card and got a 5.

[iisanaggie]

@kevinertia

@pokecollectoramy

The fact that people are risking $150 to grade these cards and are still being rewarded to do so is absolutely mind blowing to me. The pops on these easy to grade, non-vintage, non-rare cards are going to be massive.

Shoutouts to whoever paid $150 to grade a $5 card and got a 5.

pop 1!

[c0ll3ct0r]

@kevinertia

Shoutouts to whoever paid $150 to grade a $5 card and got a 5.

Who needs shitcoins when you can have memeslabs?

[hisoka107]

@c0ll3ct0r

@kevinertia

Shoutouts to whoever paid $150 to grade a $5 card and got a 5.

Who needs shitcoins when you can have memeslabs?

I see people sell XY FAs to Modern FAs and Alt Arts for $200 or less. I saw an ex FA that was selling for $150 in PSA 10. It had a 63xx cert. It cost $150+ to get that card graded. WTF would you grade that card just to sell it. This is the stuff that blows my mind.

[dblast]

So current thread meta is between bashing on Aoki poke goals or dramatizing how folks spend their money grading/buy graded cards. Interesting. Ok.

Soo… It should be no surprise that new modern cards, graded during the $150 fees will command a higher buying price for those early adopters. The difficult cards to grade appear to be greninja, celebrations collection (non classic), and probably the FA Pikachu in the grass (qc terrible where the sun’s rays are just mass print lines). If you want to wait a year+ (Psa bulk down still), you can probably get the cards in PSA 10 for less down the line. Owning a PSA 10 is much cleaner then having the card in NM+ condition, but to each their own collecting styles.

It is surprising that the lower qc Celebrations Collection, which are also lower pop then the Classic Collection’s are not selling for higher prices, aside from the one the Reshiram that sold for $800. The New Celebrations Collection is the New (Unique Art?), whereas the Classic Collection is reprints, like the Charizard.

[kingboo64]

@dblast

It is surprising that the lower qc Celebrations Collection, which are also lower pop then the Classic Collection’s are not selling for higher prices, aside from the one the Reshiram that sold for $800. The New Celebrations Collection is the New (Unique Art?), whereas the Classic Collection is reprints, like the Charizard.

Hear me out, I know this sounds crazy, but maybe they shouldn’t be higher because there’s a metric fuckton and because they’re 10 cents each

[amcgl58]

@kingboo64

@dblast

It is surprising that the lower qc Celebrations Collection, which are also lower pop then the Classic Collection’s are not selling for higher prices, aside from the one the Reshiram that sold for $800. The New Celebrations Collection is the New (Unique Art?), whereas the Classic Collection is reprints, like the Charizard.

Hear me out, I know this sounds crazy, but maybe they shouldn’t be higher because there’s a metric fuckton and because they’re 10 cents each

Agreed, enough said.

[c0ll3ct0r]

@dblast

The difficult cards to grade appear to be greninja

16,6% chance to get the 10 based on a whopping 12 copies graded so far. Statistically speaking, you’ll need $930 (fees+raw copies) to grade a 10.

Of course, another approach would be to spend half of that money on 93 raw copies instead and sit on them until grading is cheap again. No matter how difficult it is to grade (which it clearly isn’t) you’d only need a success rate of 1,07% to get one10 (or, more realistically, around 20).

[parkermrparker]

Whats the value of a BGS quad 9.5 1st ed Shining Charizard

[admiral]

PSA 9 price + a small premium.

[parkermrparker]

@admiral

PSA 9 price + a small premium.

Think its worth spending the $300 to see if my psa 9 crosses then ?