Thereâs an insane amount of pre Neo cards out there.
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base-gym breaks are not even news anymore. I love the hype that the breakers try to force into them though like they are doing the unthinkable (while being the 2nd break this week of that box)
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Looks like those S&M base set ETBs are actually being reprinted. Anyone who bought S&M sealed product at high prices could be possibly going to pound town over the next few months/years.
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âReprintedâ, I think in the case of overprinted sets, means that they have a lot of unreleased back stock, and the best way to offload packs is to stuff 8 packs in ETBs and sell them on Walmartâs shelf for $32 (re: evolutions/crimson invasion ETBs). But yeah, totally agree - this is one set that seems like it will never go up in value lol.
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Hey everyone, got a price check that Iâm not real sure about.
Charizard reverse holo legendary collection PSA 10. Saw one sold on eBay for 12.5k a couple months ago but I havenât seen one auctioned off in a very long time. Think this price is at least in the general area?
Thanks for your input
who uses the word censor in normal conversation lmao
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itâs for when someone disagrees with you but you also have a victim complex
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Crypto crash related to the current crash in pokemon?
I guess you could say that, the interest in these things has peaked during covid-19, so it is only normal it crashes as people go back to normal and lose interest as they donât have as much time on their hands
I donât think anyoneâs censoring that view (or any view) â in fact, it sounds like everyone pretty much agrees with it lol. Clearly certain segments of the market were (and some still are) in a bubble. I donât think thatâs a controversial perspective at all.
The way youâve phrased it in past posts I can understand why some have read your posts as saying the whole marketâs in a bubble. You often start your posts by saying something like âthe bubble continues to popâ without specifying that youâre referring to specific segments of the market.
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I swear, if Elon starts hyping the Pokemon TCG on twitter only to stab it in the back a month later, I will flip a slab!
Crashing â Adjusting
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Peaks occured for the same reason sorta (covid) but âcrashesâ are unrelated. The markets going down at the same time would be because of a slowing economy but the drastic decreases are unrelated. Both were on the rise when the pandemic hit but pokemons peak was because of logan paul and cryptos was because of people like must and other factors that make people pump up Bitcoin. Crashes in bitcoin is because of the dump that occurred because of the pump during covid and pokemon is a mix of people going back outside, the grading backlog, and people who were in it for a quick buck dipping.
If early WotC hadnât retraced dramatically, it would look worse lol. No one couldâve seriously expected something that quadrupled overnight to hold its value? It only went down substantially because it went up equally substantially.
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Itâs up like 5000% in the past 2 years and down 50% in the past few months so Iâd say itâs been by far the safest for collectors and the worst for hypetrain cloutchasing flippers that didnât know who Pikachu was and just tried to make a quick buck
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Tough to say because thereâs no 1:1 comparison of now to something in the past. but idk who was saying WOTC was a safe âinvestmentâ 5 months ago except for youtubers and people wanting to pump up their cards. WOTC has the worst fundamentals of most cards out there. What I mean by that is there are too many cards out the I think base unlimited Charizard has 20,000 graded and I canât think of anything in this world where thereâs 20,000 of holding a steady price of $4000+ for long. Now everyone leaving the market that came when it was trendy are selling their cards off trying to recover some of the money they lost when they bought a that peak thinking it was going to be a âsafeâ investment. Simple supply and demand will tell you that when thereâs too much supply and not enough demand prices will go down until it reaches an equilibrium. One thing of note though is with those same principles buying right now would be a relatively âsafeâ investment if you want to look at it that way. WOTC is at a low place right now so some cards are a great pickup and will make you some good money a few years from now. But buy what you like, if you rly like WOTC then buy now but if not then donât even pay attention to it.
I hate the term safe investment if you couldnât tell but if such a thing is out there with PokĂ©mon cards then early Japanese promos and cards of that nature would be far better holdings than WOTC FYI.
Hope I could clarify some things for you. I love market discussions like this so if you want to keep discussing it be my guest!
âWOTCâ is too broad to be meaningful. Even âBase setâ is too generic. First edition, ShadowlessâŠNeos, etc. you canât compare Skyridge or Neo Destiny to Base Set 2, for eg., or worse, Base Set Unlimited to literally anything else including Base Set Shadowless or 1st.
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While we in the forum know the vast differences between all the base set variants, neo series, and everything else under the sun WOTC did, I would argue that the casual collectors or maybe even the majority of the people that came in during the hype didnât. All youtube was for 2 months was âWOTC _______ box opening, you wont believe what I pulled $$$$â and thatâs the most exposure people got. It isnât until you learn about shadowless, shining cards, holo patterns, gray stamps, thick stamps, and whatever else that you really start to understand that WOTC wasnât just this broad era that the âexpensiveâ cards you see on youtube are pulled from. Itâs this really diverse era but a lot of people donât have the time to learn all that stuff they just fire up youtube once a day and watch a new team rocket 1st edition opening and thats the extent of their knowledge. Like with Conway when he asked about if WOTC was a safe investment. What does that really even mean? you cant invest in every WOTC card and you cant pick out commons from Base Unlimited and hope theyâre all worth $200 next month. So youâre exactly right with youâre response but most people in the hobby donât see WOTC as this colorful scene that you and I do but more of a black and white.
no shots taken at you im just trying to kind of put myself in the mindset of someone that has limited knowledge of the hobby
I agree with the overall point, I just wanted to point out that thereâs sports cards with high pops (compared to PokĂ©mon) that still remain expensive. The Jordan 86 Fleer Rookie comes to mind. Base charizard might be, in the future, an example of this in PokĂ©mon, I think.