Shining Legends Impact on the OG Shining Market

Now that people have had time to somewhat digest shining legends, I was curious as to what people thought their impact might have on the old shining cards. I was expecting a 10-20% increase in the price of OG shining cards upon immediate set release, but so far that does not seem to have occurred. My thoughts on this are twofold:

  1. The 6-12 month price move on the old shining cards has already pushed collectors to a “wall” so to speak on price point and the consensus is they shouldn’t be paying any higher for the time being.

  2. People interested in collecting shinings in the first place are financially exhausted from buying large amounts of shining legends and don’t have the funds to devote to the older cards for a while.

I find the amount of mint ungraded unlimited and 1st edition copies of the old shinings available on ebay is very surprising. I don’t quite understand why these aren’t being bought left and right at the moment. I personally find them a much more attractive concept than gold stars and crystal-types.

Case in point. 1st edition charizards in ungraded mint condition are still at least a monthly occurrence…
www.ebay.com/itm/Neo-Destiny-1ST-Edition-Ultra-RareHolo-Shining-Charizard-107-105/302515376383

Shhhh… don’t spread the word, let me buy them for cheap. I also think they’re harder to find mint ungraded than usual; that seller just happens to have a nearly full ungraded collection. There’s a LOT of LP/EX condition ones but I haven’t seen many NM/Mint.

People like the OG shining cards in a binder. They look really good together especially neo destiny with a shining mew and that makes a full binder page. Seeing what these cards could fetch in the current market, binder collectors are selling their mint ungraded copy.

As to the release of SL impacting the OG Shinings, Im expecting a price bump after 2 months of release. They come together as a lovely set once put together :blush:

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Fair point, I had a beautiful binder page of the 9 crystals but am sending in to get graded since it’s too risky to keep such valuable cards in a binder

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If only Ultra-Pro would make those PSA slab binder pages again, you could have the best of both worlds!

It is a lot harder than people think to grade the Shining Legends shinies in PSA 10…I sent in multiples of each and don’t even have a complete PSA 10 set yet (missing Arceus and Jirachi). Lugia and Celebi in particular will be hard to grade because of the way they get easily damaged being packaged in the Premium Collection box…almost impossible to get them out carefully because of the plastic tabs. I actually have the only PSA 10 Shining Lugia currently…

A complete Shining Legends set will be out of reach for most people, imo…yeah, they’re mass produced, but that doesn’t mean much in regards to getting a perfectly graded set.

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I personally don’t collect anything outside WOTC so the og shinings will always be close to me, but I’ve never been so hyped about a new release of cards ever. I can’t wait to pick the new shinings up!

Price wise they aren’t cheap to buy and trying to get all 8 is tough in near mint/mint condition, let alone graded. Plus they come in 1st and standard forms.

If people had the complete neo destiny sets then it would help, but those are very hard to come by, correct me if I’m wrong?

Time will tell in the increase but I love them.

The Neo Shinings will never be cheaper than they are right now so if you want them you may as well just get them. No amount of conjecture can change that.

I’ve noticed that finding an actual NM copy of most Neo Shining cards is getting harder and harder. I’m seeing a decent amount of LP condition copies selling for closer to what EX-NM used to sell for last summer and earlier this year. I used to sit on eBay during work and when I got home and just wait for deals non-stop, I’ve since stopped that.

Shining Kabutops spiked big time too, a NM copy of it was easily under $40 if you were persistent. Shining Gyarados and Magikarp also went up.

Does anyone see the shining legends “shinings” gaining significant future value like the originals? I personally can’t see it happening any time soon

Nope.

Maybe in 5-10 years time we’ll see that change but this stuff is just everywhere. In 12 months the pops on the 10s will probably be double of the OG Shinings.

Yeah that’s pretty much what I figured, and the days of people not caring about their cards is long gone so less will go missing over time and there will be a higher pop for a longer time frame.

Not ever. Insanely mass produced, most of the most sought after (besides mew) being promos didn’t help. Will never come close to.

The originals were mass produced too…

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There is a difference between mass produced in boxes where the demand was low and the pull rates were lower and what they are producing now, an exponential difference.

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I thought we already clarified that the pull rates then and now are the same?
For specific shinings.

yeah, but I think hes saying that the sheer amount of product that has been opened in a short amount of time for SL versus the lower production, lower opening rates, and age make the original shinings a bit of a different case. I think that the fact that they’re shinings still will give them some credit in years to come, though

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That’s exactly why I asked!

I was unaware of that. Which ones mimic the pullrates of previous wotc shinings?

I believe the price for Mew, Rayquaza and the Test Tube Mewtwo will reach to high values in the future due to the demand for those cards. I don’t see rayquaza getting to the price of the OG shiny ray though. Mew probably will surpace the gold star mew, at least I believe so due to the appeal of the card. Test tube Mewtwo will command the higher prices for the set, being such a hard card to grade a 10, Isdon’t see the pop passing the 150.

The only thing we can do is wait because you cant predict the market.