Seller Trying to Get his Card Back/Shipping Issues

[gottaketchumall]

@pokeaddict84

He did acknowledge international shipping was risky and claimed the package as a gift with $85 in value.

To save himself money on import taxes he took a gamble. That was his choice and he must shoulder the risk since he was basically taking it in his hands to self insure, but now that it comes time to “pay out a claim” he doesn’t want to. He’s likely saved a lot of money over the years avoiding taxes and will do so in the future, so just chalk this one up as a loss and overall he is still ahead of if he paid taxes on everything he’s bought. You owe him nothing and he should be grateful you’ve offered the $350 cash replacement. I’d pursue the $85 insurance value and send that along.

[sam608]

@justmatt

I think some are being a little rude here and jumping the gun. For example @sam608 , if the other person in the trade requested or agreed the value of the item to be lower to avoid taxes then at that point they accepted the price of the goods being sent to be less. Without knowing the exact agreement we cant tell.

The main thing you have here OP is the possibility it still could be delivered, there is many examples showing delayed parcels with no tracking updates till they physically move.

After that it really depends on what you agreed on, if the other person requested lower value to avoid taxes then they can been seen at fault for the difference lost from claimable value to actual card value at the point of the deal.

The fact he wants the card back because of the increased value makes me wonder what he would want if the reverse has happened and it had plummeted, he would probably take the cash.

If you both agreed to lowering the value in insurance, then you both should be splitting the loss evenly. If his card to you was the lost one, would he take it on the chin and give you yours back?

You’r right we don’t know everything, but saying “a little rude and jumping the gun” is wrong. The OP said “His options are to take the cash value of the trade I offered or follow up on his threat to send the money back and be out $750 + a $750 card. I think he’s got no choice.” The OP knows he is in the stronger position and just wants to be justified in keeping the card. Judging by most of the responses. That’s what will happen.

[somepokemonguy]

This is why trades are messy. You need to always agree beforehand on what will happen if items get lost or damaged in the mail. Usually this issue is avoided by insuring for the full value of the package or, if you’re a bit of a gambler, simply agreeing that if your package gets lost then you just chock it up as a loss. Paying him for the current value of the lost pack isn’t something that makes sense. If I sell something on eBay for $500, ship it with insurance and it gets lost I’m going to receive $500 for it even if the item is worth $1,000 now. Same thing from the buyer’s perspective; if they pay $500 for it and it gets lost in the mail and they don’t receive it they are refunded the original purchase price, not the current market value. All that being said, it depends on your original agreement.