QoTD: What makes you angry in the hobby?

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Today’s Question:
QotD: What makes you angry in the hobby?

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Quality control? Scalpers? Prices? Lack of cohesiveness?

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Letting cards slip away.

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Yes.

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People (usually teens) who pressure kids into trading when they’re clearly not comfortable. They’re usually the same ones who willingly trade fake cards and just conveniently forget to tell the kid it’s fake (and get pissy when I point it out to them - stay mad jerk).

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Forgetting about an auction that you kept tabs on for a week and then seeing it ended significantly under market :skull:

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Almost everything I have heard and seen so far about Whatnot.

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Getting a card on ebay when its 2k and it being a scam (with a refund from ebay) and then having to spend 6k to buy it 2 years later…

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People who are into this hobby for no reason other than money/investing. Sure, the financial value is a plus, and I use information about that to expand my collection, but people that care about nothing but money make the hobby worse for everyone else.

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Honestly, the fact that you can’t open EX Series sealed product anymore (unless you have endless money–in which case, more power to you). When I came back to Pokemon in late 2019 after a ~13 yr hiatus, it was pretty expensive to open EX product, but not prohibitively so. You could buy a 3-pack blister or a tin from eBay for a couple hundred bucks and have the time of your life.

But now the prices are literally 10x higher. I can no longer open EX product without feeling guilty over how fiscally irresponsible it is.

I long for a return of the days of wowlootsellers’s $150 tins. But I’m not sure we’ll ever return to that, and it makes me genuinely sad. It’s a really incredible experience as an adult to open the sets you grew up with. It’s such a shame that this experience is now as expensive as it is.

As an aside: If there’s a silver lining to all of the people “investing” in modern sealed product nowadays, it’s that the kids growing up with the current sets will have plenty of affordable product to open when they’re adults. I wish that the 2004 equivalent of crypto bros had hoarded TMTA boxes for us gen-3ers to open when we grew up :frowning:.

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scalpers

people thinking their small print error makes their common card worth big bucks

finding international language cards that are rare

many other things

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The same people who mocked me in school for liking Pokémon are now messaging me as if we’re friends. We only crossed paths in school because you bullied me, and now you want to turn that into an opportunity to profit for yourself.

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Individual cards shouldn’t cost $30k.

PSA is a scam, your 10 is a 9 but they wanted to squeeze and extra premium out of your wallet.

CGC sucks too but i respect them more for being more liberal when it comes to identifying what print cards are and may be.

Everytime you slab a card, youre locking away clues. I hate the scam.

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The worst part of this hobby isn’t scalpers or investors; it’s the scammers. Nothing ruins the experience more than having your trust broken by someone, whether they’re a new face or someone you’ve dealt with before, and this is true for both buyers and sellers.

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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; the worst thing by far about Pokemon are the people in it.

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Posers. I hate that word. But posers. I’m sorry. I know. People who can’t name Pokémon beyond Pikachu, Umbreon, Charizard and Gengar.

People who (as many others say here) would have chastised Pokémon collecting as being pathetic and are now in it for the money.

There are many, and I have met many, and dealt with many, and will probably deal with more.

However…

I have since transcended these baser emotions with Pokémon, and now I am more akin to a parent.

I am not mad, just disappointed.

I choose to focus on the good, which is primarily the cards I already own.

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I don’t necessarily get angry, but I do get frustrated sometimes. Recently I’ve been searching for a specific Japanese promo in a PSA 10. I set up multiple eBay alerts and was constantly checking Mercari Japan, Yahoo Auctions, and eBay. (There is 1 on ebay as a BIN but the price is too high for me) However one day I checked the PSA cert records for the card again and saw that one had sold on eBay just a couple of weeks ago for less than what I would’ve paid at auction. The last one that sold before then was a year ago before that>.< Frustrating that i somehow managed to miss the whole week it was up for auction..

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I’ve really just about had it with the gambling gamification of the hobby. It was one thing to rip packs at MSRP. Super low cost of entry. But the entire hobby has become diseased by it. People paying ludicrously over MSRP so a WhatNot streamer can open for them and then never send the pull. People buying mystery packs because they have to get their fix somehow. Straight up gambling sites where you can “score” random slabbed cards. We’re even at the point where people are buying those ridiculous Silver/Gold/Ruby tier slab packs and opening random slabs for like 300 a pop.

Gambling is a complete and utter sickness that’s tearing this hobby as well as sports cards apart.

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Seeing people who have been in the hobby for 5 minutes and watched a couple Youtube videos now self proclaim themselves as experts.

Its 1000% fine to be new to collecting, but my gosh there are 1 million people who know more than you do

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I would say for me it’s the overall/current state of modern collecting. I’ve only dabbled in it compared to vintage, but I feel like within a very short time you can be priced out of it so quickly. I don’t mean that I can’t afford it, but that the market literally decides within days when a set is ‘strong’ or ‘weak’, and then the supply becomes a problem pretty much until it’s sold out/scalped away.

It seems that even the LGS’s are increasingly in on it, artificially limiting supply or sales.. and even if they cap the amount of product people can buy, they’re still controlling the supply based off demand and other market factors going on. I get that they want to make money or have to make money.. but I feel bad for anyone either just trying to play the game as opposed to strict collecting or ‘investing’, but then also if you’re a young kid trying to get into Pokemon it must seem expensive or unfair at times. I just don’t think you should have to take out a loan or setup a bot to buy some of these cards, but I really feel it’s getting this way more and more over time.

Overall, it just seems kind of fake to me. When I look at the vintage market, I totally get why certain cards/sets have become so valuable over time. They faced more natural attrition, were destroyed/lost or that some sets had lower supply due to dwindling demand, etc. But now everything just feels a whole lot less organic to me, and I just don’t know if it’s sustainable.

In one way I’m happy that people are excited to willing to drop the money on modern, but I can’t help but wonder sometimes where it’s all going to end up or if it will become increasingly ‘toxic’ over time even compared to the past few years. So all in all it kind of just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.. even though I do enjoy a lot of the cards that have come out of modern the past while.

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