QotD: What are your thoughts on “restoring” pokemon cards?

Rare mirror holo base2 variants are worth extra. Buy now before cgc starts recognizing it as an error and get in on the ground floor!

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I went out of my way to not wear my Bapesta’s or Nike Air Force 180’s to the LGS for a long time but I think it doesn’t matter anymore, haha!

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Its so over

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considering psa doesnt accept “restored” cards that will likely never happen :rofl: which is why the kurt cum purveyors have to get other ppl to submit for them :grimacing:

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What makes me especially sad about this restoration trend is that many of the folks who are using these substances to alter cards will not be around in a year or two. As soon as the easy money is gone or some other hobby proves more fruitful, they will abandon ship. And yet, the damage that they caused to cards will be permanent, and this is something that the rest of us will have to accept / navigate.

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gold star rayray will be back to 35k in a year or two is what ur saying :thinking:

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First time I’ve ever liked a Tidal post btw.

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What a weird inference :rofl:

Imagine you go up to a random construction worker…

“You know how pokemans are made, what’s used to make them, and how they come out looking identical with zero print flaws?”

“Of course I do I work construction.”

It really doesn’t seem like you thought through these questions. Just as an FYI. Reason I’m even bringing it up is because I love me some good debate and I know you can do better than this :slight_smile: plus you do manual labor so I expect you to know how to debate.

This is actually an underrated sentence and you should be proud that you’ve finished it :slight_smile: not many people have and that’s a really exceptional accomplishment.

I’m glad you found a job that pays well.

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I agree that people in this discussion have been very mean. Myself included.

If you know you’re going to get punched in the face, might as well be the first one to do it (talking about having such harsh contrary opinions from the get)

I like me some good debate though, but I’m also guilty of being mean…and it’s nothing I wouldn’t say to them in person :rofl: I also think that over the internet communicating tone of voice is virtually lost. And I think when people try and ‘debate’ online anything that is said without an emoji is seen as cold or sharp or harsh. Obviously this is a bit of hyperbole but what I’m saying is that when you read something online you’re not actually communicating with someone, you’re communicating with how you imagine them saying what they said in your head it’s not even real. It’s all just fantasy.

Makes it difficult to talk about hard topics this way

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Glad if you like a healthy debate..

And healthy debate includes strengthening our points and showing the problem with opponent points within a respectful bounds.

But in this particular thread there are few posts that involve mockery which is not for a healthy debate. So imo debating over a topic is good until we are in bounds of respect.

And this is why there need to be very much extra carefullness when we post in online. Sure online doesn’t give us a live picture of us so we can only imagine the person’s tone by the words they use.

With that said, I personally love healthy debates though i am not much into pokemon cards. Hope we could have one in my polls session. Have a warm day ahead :slight_smile:

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Totally agree :+1:

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If you were to go to the right construction worker, they would know exactly how they are made. Good job picking up on that, though, bad job questioning yourself by calling it a “weird inference.” My point is as proven as it will ever be by that guy who worked in a small to mid size print shop and posted a video recoloring card edges last year. He had a construction worker vibe and what he was doing in the print shop was directly compared, by himself, to what a construction worker would do in a Home Depot. So, nothing weird about it.

I don’t know why I’m basically being called a prick for stating I finished my collection goals (for Pokemon) several years ago. I only offered that information to be transparent and clear regarding what I do or do not have at risk or invested in my commentary. Since I am not buying any Pokemon,cards outside of new sets and am not selling anything of value, outside of new set singles, I don’t have anything at risk or invested in this question or my answer and viewpoint being accepted/rejected by the market majority. This is an important piece of information that should be taken into consideration if you’re going to give a second of attention to someone. There are no consequences waiting if I am totally wrong as fck.

What does anyone stand to gain or lose along with their opinion? If their opinion is intertwined with their gain or profit, extra scrutiny, consider that motive and potential for misleading you to act in their best interest, extrapolate this into the neutral (this is me… :waving_hand:t3:) and opposing positions as you see fit.

I haven’t actually done manual labor as a profession for income in 15 years or so. I’m actually a Senior InfoSec Engineer for the top FI’s in the country. It paid 6 figures at 25 years old, and I’m going on 40 now, never married, no kids, so, I’ve had ridiculous amounts of disposable income that I dumped into a few dozen vehicles over the years, from jacked up 4WD to foreign luxury hardtop ‘vert’s to late model 5.0 Mustangs overhauled for the track. I usually had 4 or 5 vehicles at one time, blah blah blah, and I got receipts, even with all of those vehicle types at one time. :roll_eyes: Meaning… I’ve been working on my own vehicles and my own home in my own wood and metal shop, and I’ve been doing my own paint correction on vehicles for at least 20 years.

Instead of trying to make a little bit from significant effort on card cleaning, which is, at best, morally ambiguous along with other headaches that could arise, and then needing to resell before the initial investment and any profit is made, I’m only suggesting a better way, and I really don’t appreciate the stupid ass sarcasm lacking any relevant context to the content, from anyone replying.. Nothing about this suggestion should even be getting acknowledged, it’s obviously not directed towards you..

Paint correction is a profession men can be proud of and that can pay exceptionally well, and customers come to you, no need to sell anything to make your money at the end. Men in their 20’s are fucking around on this forum and on YouTube trying to extract money from cardboard because none of them have fathers to point them in the right direction. They should be using their time in less wasteful and more profitable and admirable ways that pay towards the future.

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Yet for all of your miraculous accomplishments you still felt the need to spend as long as you did (I saw) typing all of that out for strangers on the Internet.

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I’ve talked with other members about this issue before and all the drama surrounding card “restoration” could be easily solved if the grading companies got better at catching and rejecting polished or altered cards. As soon as that happens all the “easy money” will dry up and the bad actors will move onto something else.

That’s all that needs to be done.

To all the forum lurkers from PSA, CGC, TAG etc.: the ball is in your court

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Help me understand how working construction gives someone an understanding for how Pokemon cards are made. I still don’t get it. And what does the ‘right’ construction worker mean?

Brother…it’s because he worked in a print shop…not because of his vibe :rofl:

I haven’t seen the video but based on this sentence it doesn’t equal that construction workers would know how pokemans are made.

I don’t know who’s calling you that but I am genuinely impressed that you finished your collection. It is a very rare thing.

Totally understand. You’re trying to show how your opinion doesn’t come from the money that can be made from it, but from a perspective where money isn’t an issue.

I agree :+1:

And that’s the core of this whole thing. Because people put a moral value to it. They say that you are bad if you do restoration, or you’re bad if you don’t. So then it boils down to what they count as restoration so they don’t seem ‘as bad’.

Exactly. You’re saying that it’s not a moral argument, but a financial one. If you’re going to spend the time to try and restore cards for a small profit, might as well use that same restoration technique for things that would make you a lot more.

Not everyone :saluting_face:

This was not very nice :slight_smile:

But then when would we be able to talk like this to each other? :smirking_face:

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I can agree with that mate

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Fake ragebaiting the forum is pretty lame. Doing it in multiple posts is even more lame. You sir are lame.

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