Purchasing Heavy Packs

Hello E4!

I’ve run into a scenario on eBay that I didn’t find any specific past threads about. I purchased a “Possible Heavy” jungle pack on eBay. The seller shows a picture in the ad of 21g. After receiving the pack today, and throwing it on my own scale, it was 20.663. That’s not close, and we all know its not heavy. Do I have a case for a return? Seller told me that I didn’t read the description well enough that he says his scale wasn’t the best. I did read that, and anticipated something in the vicinity of 20.8-21.0. Had there not been a picture of the pack on a scale, I don’t think I’d be even thinking about this.

Maybe I’m in the wrong, and it’s best to just move on. I didn’t overpay in terms of a light pack, but it irritates me it’s not even close.

-Crypto

If you can make a case for his listing being misleading then I’d try to return it. Possible heavy pack is such a grey area but that weight is way off the picture he posted and it’s really easy to check if your scale is calibrated with a nickel weighing 5 grams. Not really sure how it would turn out but I’d guess he knew that his scale is off to the heavy side and used it to his advantage to get some extra money for *possible* heavy packs.

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Him saying his scale isn’t the best and the word *possible* in the listing should be a huge red flag though for future reference.

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Yeah, I agree. I anticipated it being light, but not that far off. That’s why I was contemplating trying to issue a return. It wasn’t even close haha. He says he doesn’t accpet returns, so it would be a case for eBay.

Thanks for the feedback!

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That’s a hard return from me. The item is literally not as described.

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Yeah every unweighed pack is a possible heavy pack lol but once he throws it on the scale and it reads a heavy weight that’s kinda false advertising imo, regardless of him saying his scale is bad. If he knows it’s bad then why would he weigh it unless he knows that it’ll read heavier.

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Live by the sword, something something…

Would be interesting to see how eBay would deal with this though. I can see arguments on both sides, but I think you would have the benefit as the buyer.

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Thanks! I’ll give it a shot and see what ebay says.

Mathematically 20.663 = 21 when rounding to two significant digits and that is exactly what a to-the-nearest-whole gram scale would (and clearly did) say. You were wrong to assume you’d get 20.8 to 21.0 and the seller was wrong if they had a fine scale that told them it was light, and a secondary scale to bring it into a gray area intentionally for the listing.

With the given facts of the situation you got exactly what you bought though and that is a fact. One must make assumptions to bring in any foul play. I’d guess that’s what happened though. I never would have bought it in the first place.

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This is a good point. I did not read the OP thinking the scale was so bad it was rounding. I change my original firm stance to more of a grey one. It’s up to you to decide what you want to do. I agree that you made a poor assumption going into the purchase and I’d advise any sellers out there to use a real scale if they want to do this, otherwise you are basically selling unweighted and you should not be putting heavy in the title.

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You’re right. This is probably exactly what happened. Ah well. You win some, and lose more. Thanks!

scales are very easy to manipulate. buy from trusted sellers.

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I assumed by 21 grams on the scale it was 21.0 but if the seller was using a whole gram scale then that’s another story. Still, I’d say the seller definitely knew what they were doing trying to rip u off even more so if he used a whole gram scale and light packs get rounded up to 21. Using a whole gram scale to weigh packs is kind of hilarious to me lol

heavy packs are the new mystery packs

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I agree haha. At the end of the day I guess I should have just not purchased it!

You can’t trust people who use kitchen scales they dont weigh the 0.01 they round to the nearest gram that 21 gram pack on a weight watchers scale can be 20.5 all the way to 21.4 anyone who is serious will go buy a 10 dollar scale that actually is accurate not steal their moms scale from the kitchen…