Purchased PSA 8 card with dent, what should everyone do?

[gottaketchumall]

@zorloth

@gottaketchumall, and that’s precisely why I disclosed that the card had a dent – because PSA’s “guarantee” is effectively worthless.

Yeah but spread the love and let others find out for themselves. Imagine PSA letting that card stay out in the wild for what… like 1500 bucks lol

[admiral]

sellers of slabs should post the same types of pictures they would if the card was raw, not just pics of fronts and backs

[wisewailmer]

@admiral

sellers of slabs should post the same types of pictures they would if the card was raw, not just pics of fronts and backs

100% and never just scans which lose all the depth and texture that may be there. Scans should just be for display

[KingPokemon]

@markzkong

Sorry for the confusion, the dark blastoise is just an example that I used to illustrate what would you do if you got this in the mail after paying market price for it. From the majority of the responses, it seems like to be a good buyer, we should do nothing to the seller and take the issue up with PSA.

The gold star is in the second photo with the corner dent (not the same card as the dark blastoise). It is not a curve or lip but an actual dent. My photo taking skill isn’t the greatest but it’s there. The seller also admitted the dent when I reached out to him.

The point of this thread is I want to be a good buyer and asked what should I do in case where you got a card that you don’t think deserve the grade. Obviously everyone’s opinion is subjective, just like some people are okay with the corner dent on the gold star or even the dent on the dark blastoise. But it seems like the majority agreed the sellers should have no obligation to disclose or even offer return after a sale has been made. That is a shame because of I know there are some PSA 9 with crease in them. I definitely wouldn’t feel comfortable selling them as “PSA 9s” without disclosing this information upfront. Just because I want a PSA x and got a PSA x doesn’t mean the sale is done. Misgrade or slab with cracks in them happen all the time.

In any case, people will have a different opinion of what a PSA 8, 9 or 10 should look like and that is understandable. I took everyone’s advice and reached out to the seller to let him know I will not return the slab. He is very appreciative of this and will provide a discount on the next order if I continue to buy from him (which I will).

At the end of the day, a few hundred isn’t that big of a deal but what is important to me is my character. For me, I just want to be a good buyer and thanks to everyone here, I know what to do now. You can close the thread.

Based on your picture, and if all else is okay…that’s an 8.

[xjustakiid]

Well, at the end of the day, you paid for a PSA 8 and you received a PSA 8. I wouldnt really make a problem out of it. If the condition of the card is really good other then the sent then its likely that it got the 8 because of it.

That’s how I feel about it personally

[oldboy]

@admiral

sellers of slabs should post the same types of pictures they would if the card was raw, not just pics of fronts and backs

Disagree, a photo of the front and back is more than enough.

We’ve paid all this money to PSA so that we don’t have to bother with all the hassle. 18 months and counting is how long I’ve been waiting for some of my slabs to return. If I’m expected to take dozens of photos of the card, why did I bother paying PSA to grade the card at all then?

I’ve paid for an experts opinion and that’s what I’m selling on. If you don’t trust PSA’s grading, don’t buy PSA slabs.

This is coming from someone who is PRIMARILY a buyer/collector.

[admiral]

@oldboy

@admiral

sellers of slabs should post the same types of pictures they would if the card was raw, not just pics of fronts and backs

Disagree, a photo of the front and back is more than enough.

We’ve paid all this money to PSA so that we don’t have to bother with all the hassle. 18 months and counting is how long I’ve been waiting for some of my slabs to return. If I’m expected to take dozens of photos of the card, why did I bother paying PSA to grade the card at all then?

I’ve paid for an experts opinion and that’s what I’m selling on. If you don’t trust PSA’s grading, don’t buy PSA slabs.

This is coming from someone who is PRIMARILY a buyer/collector.

“Buy the card not the grade”
“But please just trust the grade”

[smpratte]

Some of these comments have lost the plot. The percentage of actual misgrades is so incredibly small. The entire point of third party grading is paying for a service to assess condition. A front an back scan of a graded card is more than fine.

Speaking as a buyer who probably spends more than 99% of the people in the hobby, I can’t remember the last time I asked for additional photos of a graded card. Because again, a front and back scan does the job and actual misgrades are such a small exception. As seen in this original topic, the card was appropriately graded, just someone learning the ropes of grading, which is the more probable scenario.

[sherbert13]

@smpratte

Speaking as a buyer who probably spends more than 99% of the people in the hobby

Grandmaster flex

[indieguitar]

@admiral

@oldboy

Disagree, a photo of the front and back is more than enough.

We’ve paid all this money to PSA so that we don’t have to bother with all the hassle. 18 months and counting is how long I’ve been waiting for some of my slabs to return. If I’m expected to take dozens of photos of the card, why did I bother paying PSA to grade the card at all then?

I’ve paid for an experts opinion and that’s what I’m selling on. If you don’t trust PSA’s grading, don’t buy PSA slabs.

This is coming from someone who is PRIMARILY a buyer/collector.

“Buy the card not the grade”
“But please just trust the grade”

Buyers can always ask for more pictures, but I agree that it is low effort to snap a few more pictures of the corners, at an angle, etc. so why not just do it (especially if it is a nicer card)?

[Gus]

I think the issue is that people need to understand the condition ranges/flaws that are acceptable for the grade they are looking to buy.

For example, a PSA Mint 9 could have centering issues, back whitening, or even print lines.

When I was looking for a PSA 9 Misty’s Golduck Holo for my collection, I asked several sellers specifically for pictures of the holofoil to determine if it had the notorious print lines for that card or just poor centering/back whitening. I eventually found a PSA 9 copy of the card that I was happy with and made the purchase.

[xara]

@Gus

I think the issue is that people need to understand the condition ranges/flaws that are acceptable for the grade they are looking to buy.

For example, a PSA Mint 9 could have centering issues, back whitening, or even print lines.

When I was looking for a PSA 9 Misty’s Golduck Holo for my collection, I asked several sellers specifically for pictures of the holofoil to determine if it had the notorious print lines for that card or just poor centering/back whitening. I eventually found a PSA 9 copy of the card that I was happy with and made the purchase.

I am relatively new to collecting slabbed Pokemon cards, but I already made the experience that PSA 9s even can have holofoil surface scratches or scuffs on the edges. You can add that to the list

[pfm]

@admiral

@oldboy

Disagree, a photo of the front and back is more than enough.

We’ve paid all this money to PSA so that we don’t have to bother with all the hassle. 18 months and counting is how long I’ve been waiting for some of my slabs to return. If I’m expected to take dozens of photos of the card, why did I bother paying PSA to grade the card at all then?

I’ve paid for an experts opinion and that’s what I’m selling on. If you don’t trust PSA’s grading, don’t buy PSA slabs.

This is coming from someone who is PRIMARILY a buyer/collector.

“Buy the card not the grade”
“But please just trust the grade”

These are not as contradictory you are portraying them to be. “Buy the card, sell the grade”. It’s not that hard to get. The apparent contradiction just lies in the difference between the motivation of the seller vs buyer but this is identical to the way buyers want to minimize cost and sellers want to maximize profit.