PSA Reholder/recase - New Case is Worse! Zard 1st Ed PSA 7

[gott006]

they are probably just very tiny bubbles from the plastic drying process. the slabs would be cheaply and quickly made. imo you shouldnt think too much about it.

[KingPokemon]

@papershredder955

@KingPokemon

Let me just add…No. They not only don’t, but can’t use any part of the old case once it’s been cracked.

If that’s true…and they did actually recase it (which…according to the back…I think so? it does look different)…do you think that possibly those pixels on the front happen to just be a part of the card??
They look exactly like the greyed out pixels on the case and I’ve seen them on other cases just like that…but…maybe they just happen to be printing defects on the actual card??
It would be an extremely weird coincidence.
I should have taken more before pictures!
Edit: Is there a possibility they did not recase it at all? They just looked at it and shipped it off back to me? I mean I HIGHLY doubt it but I am wondering…

It’s impossible to salvage half the case during recasing. I guess it’s possible a mistake was made and the case wasn’t changed but even that’s highly unlikely.

[papershredder955]

Okay so after looking further into this…I discovered what had happened.

It looks like they DID recase the card, however, they found a new case with ALMOST the exact same pattern, and put it on. It’s very likely just an extreme coincidence that the new case has almost the exact same pattern.

Thankfully this does reveal that the pixels are NOT a part of the card, but are a part of the case, as expected.

Obviously it’s still disappointing that I paid $250 for…basically the same case. You would think that the person recasing would get a case that looks a bit different at least? Not it’s almost identical sibling lol.

[cinnaminhbun]

@papershredder955

Okay so after looking further into this…I discovered what had happened.

They DID recase the card, however, the new case has patterns on the front that are almost identical to the previous case, just a little bit off. I will demonstrate here via the images:

imgur.com/a/XlCTevR

First let’s address the back. Very obviously comparing the first 2 pictures, it appears they definitely did change the case, as the back has pixels in different locations.

Following up on Not Zelda Gilroy’s comment, this means that the front MUST have been changed also and the item was definitely recased.

Let’s look at the front now. You can see that upon zooming in, comparing the before and after, they both appear to have 3 pixels in very similar patterns.

However if you go to the last photo here, and compare it to the places on the hologram, you can see it’s just slightly off. The one on the left (left from viewing the card) is just barely to the right in the After Photo. The one in the middle is more to the right under the star of the holo. However, the furthest right one, you can see it’s MUCH more left in the after photo. Before sending you can see it was almost touching the wing, now it’s more closer to the star.

Now if they were all moving in 1 direction after the change, that would led me to believe it COULD be a part of the card, because maybe the card was just slightly more in 1 direction in the case (unlikely but plausible). However this confirms that it is indeed a different pattern altogether, as 1 pixel goes in a different direction than the others AFTER the change.

Conclusion:

So drawing from this, it looks like they DID recase the card, however, they found a new case with ALMOST the exact same pattern, and put it on. It’s very likely just an extreme coincidence that the new case has almost the exact same pattern.

Thankfully this does reveal that the pixels are NOT a part of the card, but are a part of the case, as expected.

Obviously it’s still disappointing that I paid $250 for…basically the same case. You would think that the person recasing would get a case that looks a bit different at least? Not it’s almost identical sibling lol.

Unfortunately the person re-casing the card would have no reason to be partial to one case or another, unless one is severely cracked or damaged. I have similar “damage” on some of my cases and figure it’s just a manufacturing thing. Not too big of a deal, but I feel your frustration. When I got my PSA 9 1st Ed. Zard back from them, which I paid Super Express for… the case had scratches all over it! But alas, like some here have said, the grade of the card is what matters. I wonder if BGS cases have similar “issues”?!

[papershredder955]

@cinnaminhbun

@papershredder955

Okay so after looking further into this…I discovered what had happened.

They DID recase the card, however, the new case has patterns on the front that are almost identical to the previous case, just a little bit off. I will demonstrate here via the images:

imgur.com/a/XlCTevR

First let’s address the back. Very obviously comparing the first 2 pictures, it appears they definitely did change the case, as the back has pixels in different locations.

Following up on Not Zelda Gilroy’s comment, this means that the front MUST have been changed also and the item was definitely recased.

Let’s look at the front now. You can see that upon zooming in, comparing the before and after, they both appear to have 3 pixels in very similar patterns.

However if you go to the last photo here, and compare it to the places on the hologram, you can see it’s just slightly off. The one on the left (left from viewing the card) is just barely to the right in the After Photo. The one in the middle is more to the right under the star of the holo. However, the furthest right one, you can see it’s MUCH more left in the after photo. Before sending you can see it was almost touching the wing, now it’s more closer to the star.

Now if they were all moving in 1 direction after the change, that would led me to believe it COULD be a part of the card, because maybe the card was just slightly more in 1 direction in the case (unlikely but plausible). However this confirms that it is indeed a different pattern altogether, as 1 pixel goes in a different direction than the others AFTER the change.

Conclusion:

So drawing from this, it looks like they DID recase the card, however, they found a new case with ALMOST the exact same pattern, and put it on. It’s very likely just an extreme coincidence that the new case has almost the exact same pattern.

Thankfully this does reveal that the pixels are NOT a part of the card, but are a part of the case, as expected.

Obviously it’s still disappointing that I paid $250 for…basically the same case. You would think that the person recasing would get a case that looks a bit different at least? Not it’s almost identical sibling lol.

Unfortunately the person re-casing the card would have no reason to be partial to one case or another, unless one is severely cracked or damaged. I have similar “damage” on some of my cases and figure it’s just a manufacturing thing. Not too big of a deal, but I feel your frustration. When I got my PSA 9 1st Ed. Zard back from them, which I paid Super Express for… the case had scratches all over it! But alas, like some here have said, the grade of the card is what matters. I wonder if BGS cases have similar “issues”?!

Yeah it’s just such a weird coincidence that they found another case with almost the exact same pixels in the front as the prior one!

I mean it’s true…I guess it feels better knowing it’s just a part of the case and not a part of the card but…still. I don’t understand why PSA couldn’t have just chosen a case that at least looks a little bit different haha…
It is true. At the end of the day it is the card. Just sucks you know…especially for a card like this. Want it as nice as possible and was willing to pay to fix the issue and I paid and they didn’t fix the issue. That’s I guess what bothers me.

[huckleberry]

Why cant people just collect these days. Everybody is so obsessed with grading.

[huckleberry]

I know people who are miserable because their card came back an 8 instead of a 9. They actually lose sleep over this crap. It blows my mind!

[huckleberry]

I mean just collect! Who gives a damn what psa or beckett thinks about a card.

[huckleberry]

I just bought a 1939 timaru milling co. Joe louis boxing card, one of his rarest, and I dont care what psa thinks about it. I love joe louis and what he did inside and outside the ring. I dont care about a psa 9 or 10 or whatever. I dont care if its a 3 or a 4. Grading has screwed everything up.

[huckleberry]

Everybody is so damn crazy. Just collect. Back in 70s and 80s nobody cared about 9s or 10s. We just loved the players on the cards. It just blows my mind. A guy I know, passed up a 1927 d’aiguebelle chocolat jack dempsey card because it wasnt psa graded. Give me a damn break! Thats one of dempseys rarest cards. It just blows my damn mind.

[huckleberry]

And psa is loving it. Sitting back,getting rich.

[huckleberry]

I refuse to let grading ruin my day or week or month or whatever. I just collect because i love the players that im collecting. To hell with psa or beckett.

[huckleberry]

Goodnight.

[pfm]

@huckleberry, tell us how you really feel haha

[Cerulean]

That entire rant by huckleberry can be summarized in one phrase: “In my opinion.”

[acebren]

**working on this years SS post count requirement already**

[KingPokemon]

@huckleberry

I just bought a 1939 timaru milling co. Joe louis boxing card, one of his rarest, and I dont care what psa thinks about it. I love joe louis and what he did inside and outside the ring. I dont care about a psa 9 or 10 or whatever. I dont care if its a 3 or a 4. Grading has screwed everything up.

I actually met Joe Louis in the mid 1960s. He gave a talk at our Church then had dinner with mine and the pastors family. He was soooo inspirational. A real hero:)

[fazool]

[megazone]

@acebren

**working on this years SS post count requirement already**

Nice!

[gottaketchumall]

@Cerulean

That entire rant by huckleberry can be summarized in one phrase: “In my opinion.”

Honestly though it was a little ranty-rambly he had a very valid point.

It is a shame how much weight people put on PSA’s opinion in certain situations. I mean if you want 10’s buy 10’s whatever but I’m talking collectors who have no plan to ever sell a card that get upset over a card they’ve long cherished because it comes back a PSA 8/9 whatever. It’s said time and time again to buy the card not the grade but I see people all the time obsessing over the label and I’ve participating in “upgrading” people cards from 9 to 10 in situations where I would swear that the 9 was the better looking card but many people just can’t see past a label.