PSA: PSA currently not grading Art Academy cards

[lolzicost]

@effectspore

@lolzicost

Pretty ironic coming from you, in another thread you literally psychoanalyzed & generalized an entire subgroup of Pokemon collectors. With accusations of gatekeeping, & " childhood piss-measuring contests" etc with zero evidence of such behavior.

Bruh go outside and touch some grass

People over here arguing posting paragraphs every single day but I get singled out, ok

[enigma]

@smpratte

@enigma

Anyone other than the Kyogre artist though?

This thread is starting to throw ad hominem attacks at multiple AA artists without proof or focus. We only have the name of one AA artist on record complaining, so to attack multiple artists without both proof of their complaining and proof of them actually affecting PSA’s decision is disrespectful and VERY childish. Heck, unless information was held back from this thread, it hasn’t even been confirmed by PSA that their decision was based on complaints received by one or more artists. I get many here are angry with PSA and need somewhere to direct that anger, but I don’t think it should be directed at the artists unless there is clean evidence they were the driving force behind the decision.

Even if we have evidence of multiple artists complaining. Can we prove multiple artists have contacted PSA and complained about their cards being graded? And can we prove those complaints led to this decision? If yes and yes, by all means continue, I say. But if the answer to either question is no, attacking the AA artists is not the move. They all might not even be aware of what’s going on.

Yes Psa named the artists who were complaining. It wasn’t just the kyogre artist. It wasn’t just one instance. PSA stated the complaints were one of the main factors for their decision. Also most people involved in the community already knew which artists complained.

That’s good on PSA then, at least there’s some transparency there. I am not involved in the community in this way and have had no interaction with any of the winners, so I didn’t know. Thank you for clarifying.

[smpratte]

@enigma

@smpratte

Yes Psa named the artists who were complaining. It wasn’t just the kyogre artist. It wasn’t just one instance. PSA stated the complaints were one of the main factors for their decision. Also most people involved in the community already knew which artists complained.

That’s good on PSA then, at least there’s some transparency there. I am not involved in the community in this way and have had no interaction with any of the winners, so I didn’t know. Thank you for clarifying.

No worries. I wouldn’t make a strong claim like that without evidence. PSA mentioned a few artists, I knew about 2 prior. It’s just disappointing how a few bad apples ruined it for everyone, including the other AA winners.

[admiral]

CGC lickin’ their lips

[kingboo64]

@lolzicost

@enigma

Anyone other than the Kyogre artist though?

This thread is starting to throw ad hominem attacks at multiple AA artists without proof or focus. We only have the name of one AA artist on record complaining, so to attack multiple artists without both proof of their complaining and proof of them actually affecting PSA’s decision is disrespectful and VERY childish. Heck, unless information was held back from this thread, it hasn’t even been confirmed by PSA that their decision was based on complaints received by one or more artists. I get many here are angry with PSA and need somewhere to direct that anger, but I don’t think it should be directed at the artists unless there is clean evidence they were the driving force behind the decision.

Even if we have evidence of multiple artists complaining. Can we prove multiple artists have contacted PSA and complained about their cards being graded? And can we prove those complaints led to this decision? If yes and yes, by all means continue, I say. But if the answer to either question is no, attacking the AA artists is not the move. They all might not even be aware of what’s going on.

Pretty ironic coming from you, in another thread you literally psychoanalyzed & generalized an entire subgroup of Pokemon collectors. With accusations of gatekeeping, & " childhood piss-measuring contests" etc with zero evidence of such behavior.

[lolzicost]

@kingboo64

@lolzicost

Pretty ironic coming from you, in another thread you literally psychoanalyzed & generalized an entire subgroup of Pokemon collectors. With accusations of gatekeeping, & " childhood piss-measuring contests" etc with zero evidence of such behavior.

[haggiscollects]

Seen on someones IG story that PSA just graded the Art Academy Mew card. Wonder if its just slipped through the net or if they have backtracked.

[nysyr]

@anon92205803

@effectspore

Probably deactivating all the certs the artist didn’t submit themselves

That would be infuriating. I certainly hope PSA realizes that the artists do not own the production or distribution of these cards.
If the reason for all of this is because of a big fuss raised by the artists, then maybe the solution is for everyone else to raise even more of a fuss about the irrationality of it.

I’d have to read the contract, because ownership of artwork even of copyrighted characters can stay with the artist depending on what the language of the contest contract was. It’s entirely possible the artists own the rights to the artwork still.

It’d be nice if someone could dig the contest terms up.

[smpratte]

@nysyr

@anon92205803

That would be infuriating. I certainly hope PSA realizes that the artists do not own the production or distribution of these cards.
If the reason for all of this is because of a big fuss raised by the artists, then maybe the solution is for everyone else to raise even more of a fuss about the irrationality of it.

I’d have to read the contract, because ownership of artwork even of copyrighted characters can stay with the artist depending on what the language of the contest contract was. It’s entirely possible the artists own the rights to the artwork still.

It’d be nice if someone could dig the contest terms up.

The artists don’t own the artwork.

[rae]

@nysyr

@anon92205803

That would be infuriating. I certainly hope PSA realizes that the artists do not own the production or distribution of these cards.
If the reason for all of this is because of a big fuss raised by the artists, then maybe the solution is for everyone else to raise even more of a fuss about the irrationality of it.

I’d have to read the contract, because ownership of artwork even of copyrighted characters can stay with the artist depending on what the language of the contest contract was. It’s entirely possible the artists own the rights to the artwork still.

It’d be nice if someone could dig the contest terms up.

You’re right however I’m almost certain that the Pokemon Company would make you give up your right to the art in their contest rules since it involves distribution rights. For them to print your art on a pokemon card and mail it out they would need rights to the art even if they don’t profit from it.

[cosrob]

web.archive.org/web/20150326025449/http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-art-academy/competition/rules/

Seems like the artist own the work but agree to an open ended contract such that Pokemon can do what it likes with it forever.

“Sponsors’ Rights to Use Artwork: By entering this Contest and submitting your Artwork, you hereby grant to Sponsors a nonexclusive, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, sublicensable, worldwide license to reproduce, distribute, publish, perform, display, modify, translate, create derivative works of, and otherwise use your Artwork, or any portion thereof, in connection with the Contest and for any other advertising or promotional purpose, and to incorporate the Artwork, in whole or in part, into products or other works in any manner, form, media or technology now known or later developed. Sponsors will have no obligation to publish or otherwise use any Artwork you submit. You agree that it is your sole responsibility to obtain all permissions and releases necessary for the grant of the rights contained in this paragraph. You also agree to take, at Sponsors’ expense, any further action (including, without limitation, execution of affidavits, licenses, and other documents) reasonably requested by Sponsors to effect, perfect, or confirm Sponsors’ rights set forth above in these Official Rules, including this paragraph. You hereby waive, and agree to waive, any applicable moral rights in and to your video or image in favor of Sponsors. You will not be entitled to compensation for any use by Sponsors, or its agents, licensees or assignees, of your Artwork.”

[camrok37]

Anyone have any idea if this thread is still accurate regarding PSA no longer grading Art Academy cards? Looking to potentially purchase a raw Art Academy card and wanted to see if this is still the case.

[swolepoke]

Yep, PSA and now BGS, both do not grade Art Academy cards.

Only option left is CGC.

[camrok37]

Wow, didn’t realize BGS didn’t as well. Thanks for the response!

[Slade]

I thought you could get them graded if you have supporting documentation.

[xliveandplay]

But only the english ones maybe ? Since this cert is quite new

https://www.psacard.com/cert/76282233

[swolepoke]

It’s only ever been English they stopped grading.

[qwachansey]

No, they had not graded the Goomy in the original post. But it looks like the policy may have changed! If so, we’ll soon see something exciting.

[camrok37]

It would be awesome if they reversed their policy; I have a raw Art Academy Pikachu I have been hanging on to and waiting for PSA to see the light once again. Fingers crossed they open all of these back up to grading

[hermit]

Not sure if PSA started grading Eng AA cards again. Previously, we can’t even enter Eng AA cards in submission form, but we can do it now.