If this hasn’t been on the forum yet I’d be surprised. If it’s already here and gotten out of control then feel free mods to lock or move this thread/post.
But what the heck is this dudes deal? If the seller is on this forum could you explain yourself please? The only thing I could think of is that the card is seriously misgraded and its blatantly obvious. My guess is he knows no one will ever buy it with whatever is present on the back of that card and has tried to make the verbiage in the description so that a buyer couldn’t return it when they are inevitably disappointed when they recieved it? Sounds to me like the seller actually has either an 8 or 9 probably. I just cant figure out what this person is thinking not posting a picture of every aspect on something that is so extremely pricey. Like wouldnt they know either 1. Only a serious collector would buy this that’s gonna want to see the whole kit and caboodle or 2. An investor is going to buy it and want to see the same thing.
And I’m curious, with something this illustrious are pictures taken by PSA before this thing leaves psa to go back to the owner? With a item valued that high I figured they might do something to protect themselves from any kind of possible damage claim that wasnt their own fault. If they indeed did take pictures, could someone get up with PSA about this particular one and request pictures from them?
That is the normal reaction. If the damage is so sever as they are claiming, it should be brought up with PSA. Either way its such an odd listing to state damage but not even show a photo of the back. I understand low value cards and the large stores who don’t have the time to take photos of everything. But they are an IG person who listed their collection on ebay.
tl;dr it doesn’t make any sense. Just post photos of the back.
I have a theory about these severe PSA 10 misgrades. Sometimes when people write the number “6” it looks indistinguishable from a “1” and “0” next to each other. Due to time constraints to make quotas, graders may not always do their due diligence in verifying the number they are looking at.
Given the sellers stubbornness to post a back photo, I assume it’s bad. I mean to avoid posting the back and to openly acknowledge it… The card must be ugly.
This guy has been trying to sell this card for forever and a half for around that same price. Until he posts pictures of the back, the card will never sell, at least not for any more than a PSA 9 and I’m sure he’s not willing to go that low to get it off his hands. Ultimately this is just another case of a seller being asinine, and the fact it hasn’t sold after almost a year shows. The verbiage of “Charizard really isn’t proud of his backside”, like really?
Two scenarios would make the seller’s situation understandable…
If it’s as bad as he implies, such as PSA 8 grade edge wear, then it should be relatively simple to fix through the financial guarantee. So scenario one could be that the card is in “better” condition than most assume (Weak 10 or average 9, etc…), potentially negating compensation received through review.
Scenario two could be a problem of compensation. Last I checked SMR, which they use to determine the amount of compensation, still lists the PSA 10 value at a mere $24,500. I don’t know how significant of a problem negotiating a higher return would be but I imagine it would be quite difficult at that valuation.
These are hypotheticals, and don’t necessarily explain the lack of photos on the sellers part.
I would argue that the seller should just accept that was he has, in the eyes of a buyer, is not a PSA 10 so stop trying to get PSA 10 money for it while hiding flaws that he’s even willing to state the card has. And he’s in the USA so I don’t think he has any risk shipping it to PSA for their financial guarantee.
But he doesn’t want to sell it cheaply, as the person who buys MIGHT be able to get the guarantee difference, aka he would feel like hes losing money when someone is gaining it since it IS a 10 technically. As someone who attempted to go through their guarantee a few times with sub 1K cards, I can’t IMAGINE the hassle with something like this.
This person has bad feedback, plain and simple. They write a giant essay on the listing that probably no one will read, and at the same time, I wouldn’t want to deal with a seller like that anyways. This is the same scenario we ran with a previous post almost deceiving in a way that they get the attention with the title contradicting with what he/she wrote.
If your a completely honest seller:
-Post photos front/back with all the flaws
-Explain in brief detail
-Full disclosure (which it looks like he/she did for the most part)
@mjs61290,
“I don’t know if I want to show the back, Charizard really isn’t proud of his backside and I don’t want him to feel embarrassed.”
Sure, let’s joke about a $37,000 item. Good point here.
That seems high and I havn’t seen his other listings but if the price of the actual item is low and all the shipping is high, its cuz they are trying to beat the ebay fees (which is no longer possible).
