Prerelease Raichu

That works for people who value money over a practically priceless collection piece. How do you assign a real value to those cards?

Let’s be serious here. Everyone at the end of the day has a price for EVERYTHING in their collection. If they don’t… I would personally think they were a little crazy but maybe that is just me. If it/they exists then there is a price. Unless Bill Gates or Warren Buffet own all of them and are really into Pokemon I am sure there is a number that would flush them out. $50k, $100k, more? I have no idea, but to say that they can’t be bought seems off to me. The chase is half the fun, and it sounds like there may be either 9 or 11 out there. You could always get another one. :stuck_out_tongue:

Not sure what part of my point made you think I wasn’t serious. Whilst you may be able to put a price on everything in your possession, not everyone else is like that.

If these cards exist and the owners of them are predominantly WotC employees, these cards could easily be a huge part of fond memories and thus not for sale at all.

No one is dropping 100k or even putting it up just on a whim.

Mostly true. Certain people do not have a price on items. The issue of selling such an item is that you will most likely never find another copy. On items that have 100’s-1000’s of copies, sure, definitely a different story.

In regards to the value of this card, I honestly don’t know what people would pay, and not sure if a public sale would fair well for the card. I personally wouldn’t mind owning an authentic copy, but even owning one alone is problematic. Until it can be authenticated by PSA, which may never happen, it will be difficult to quantify its potential.

More specifically, if a sale were to happen publicly with a legitimate copy, a flurry of forgeries would hit the market. There have already been forgeries made of the card, hell, even the OP was a forgery. It is easy for people to buy a cheap authentic base raichu and apply a fake stamp. Speaking as someone who would realistically be in the market for this item, there are concerning aspect to purchase a copy until one can be authenticated. Dropping 5 figures on an item without authentication is the definition of risk.

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I believe Gary already tried this a while back.

Yes he did this before, but it is not that simple.

@gottaketchumall The people who actually own these cards are not involved at all in pokemon.

I promise if one ever surfaced with a recommendation from a reliable source, I WILL get it authenticated guaranteed (and maybe even graded). That’s one thing I can still do because of favors owed;)

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Could you elaborate this a bit for a relative noob to the expensive card market?
Which “people” are you refering to? And why would they invest in Pokémon before something else if they have no interest in it?
If someone is just after the money there should be better things to invest in if you have no passion for the product itself? :blush:

People like former Wizards employees? Don’t believe it. 16 years with zero sightings and THOUSANDS of dollars at stake…proves it.

Actually, maybe this should be treated differently. Sometimes it’s better not to burst the bubble.
Kinda like finding out the truth about Santa Claus.

Truth about Santa… whaddya mean?!

It does seem crazy that 9 or 11 or however many people supposedly have these just all fell off the map. No photos no more stories other than one or two pokegym threads. Somebody would’ve fallen on hard times and needed some cash. Somebody would have been a blabber mouth.

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Exactly…

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The cards were never on the map.

The card was only known by employees or people in the competitive circuit for a long time. Mike Boozer, one of the main employees at the time and the main one involved with the card would show it off at events. While showing the card, he would simultaneously say, “this card does not exist”.

Gary is simply stating the slogan. :blush:

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Sooo… Gary is actually Mike Boozer, and is part of a cover up?

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The plot thickens!

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mind blown

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Lol…
I’m not going to say anything bad about Mike cause he was very helpful during his customer service days at Wizards. We reached out to each other several times but never once was it about a card that I contend will never pop up.
He may have been playing around a little bit at the shows or conventions?

I have a question though. I have little personal knowledge about printing. Maybe Glenn…How hard would it be to copy that pre-release stamp?

Watch Gary actually own one and this is all just a cover.

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He does not want to admit he is destroying them.

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This might belong in a different thread… But, Gary any idea how many 1st Edition Base Set ENGLISH Charizards exist?

No idea on a total number. It doesn’t help but they were 10% of the initial base unl run but since the unl run was printed over again the 1st Ed print is around 4-6% of the total base pop.