Just to piss you since you always seem to be bothered by me
I still miss you though. 
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Wait, isnt this whole thread just about basing values and conditions off some poketuber chatter? Does anyone actually listen to poketubers because if so, I’m pretty sure my cards will be worth a lot more by 2021.
My small observation is lots of folks who get the BGS/CGS 9.5 sell on eBay or other platforms with this always in the title: “PSA 10??” All I will say is if the 9.5 truly could always be a PSA 10 then why don’t these sellers crack and submit to PSA for the bonus money? Its because they know it won’t get a PSA 10
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It was more about pointing out the bad information provided by youtubers and discussing said information. Personally, I think it’s important to talk about what is being discussed on social media because we get a sense of where certain trends might be going, we can talk about things they said and see if the hobby has changed, and other unseen forces going on in the hobby (see what I did there 
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I think her research and facts are pretty bad, but that’s based on my knowledge & biases. I could very well be wrong, and I’m happy to admit that and learn something.
exactly, it’s very misleading and disingenuous. Some people, like the youtuber in the video, think the title means they are equivalent because PSA 10s are so easy to come by.
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It seems as she had good intention but it’s taking advice from someone that clearly stated they have never graded cards before. Of course, people are going to list their 9.5 as “PSA 10?” there is always a probability but if it was a clear cut thing everyone would just express their 9.5s for a cross & reap the benefits themselves. You’ll always have weak to strong grades as it’s a scaled grading system with “wiggle room”. The two things that are left out of this video that I think have the most weight
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Grading is done by humans, I’ve resubmitted cards that I don’t believe got the correct grade… some I’m correct some I’m incorrect but I trust myself over another individual and willing to back that by spending the additional money to re-grade. It’s naive to umbrella statement a company based on how one PSA card looks in a 10 case there are multiple variables. We all know there are BGS black labels out there that don’t “deserve” it… and not familiar with CGC but their P10 probably aren’t all so pristine. — The card may be in a case, but the case is clear you can still evaluate the card and it’s why you see such margins on high-end cards even on the same “grade” … for me personally I’m not gonna buy a PSA 9 1st edition Charizard that is super OC that is UGLY (to me)… id rather buy a PSA 9 1st edition Charizard that has some minimal edge and corner wear. Personally, if I have the choice I want my collection to have a clean holo surface & clean centering as when I hang my cards you don’t see the back or sides so a white dot on the edge or some edge wear doesn’t bother me but… NO NO NO if you think I’m staring at some off-centered thing and calling it “art” It’s very subjective. But to the point, a PSA 9 with a great holo pattern will sell more than a PSA 9 w/o it and that isn’t reflected on the case but on the card.
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Collectability & Cost association… it may be cheaper to buy a CGC grade over PSA/BGS grade but now you have to cross it to the service you have your collection because idk anyone with a PSA or BGS collection willing to throw a CGC in there and now you have more associated risk. Cracking Cases, Not Grading the grade you want. You go into demand if the only purpose of CGC is to “authenticate” and basically give a pre-grade to PSA/BGS no one is going to pay premiums for the grade but they will for the card if they evaluated it themselves.
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I totally agree that grading is subjective and in some cases a card will regrade higher. The issue that I have is people saying CGC/BGS 9.5 = PSA 10, which is not true. That’s why many people here say buy the card not the grade. But for people new to the hobby hearing they are equivalent is misleading.
Watched a vid about it too.
Saying CGC is super tough.
Could be because they aren’t overwhelmed like PSA is. Damn PSA graders are prolly sick and tired of seeing millions and millions of Pokémon cards coming through lol
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And you said it…
Newcomers watch some of this crap and BELIEVE EVERY WORD
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Yeah that is very true… I just took some BGS 9.5s out & If I was a betting man I’d say 1/4 would get PSA 10 anything more would be unexpected & imo would put me at a risk esp since I would have to crack each case possibly damage the card (which i’ve done in the past) & on top of it if I get a PSA 9 im a sad boy… so yeah BGS/CGC 9.5 = PSA 10 who wants to pay up?
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For the cards I’ve been looking at, CGC copies have, in fact, been selling for nothing compared to their PSA counterparts. The CGC sellers are getting murdered. Charmander Base Unlimited, PSA 9 (29 bids) $239. CGC 9 (33 bids) $182. Bulbasaur Base Unlimited, PSA 9 (21 bids) $315. CGC 9.5 (21 bids) $162. CGC 9 (15 bids) $87 (OUCH). I certainly would love to see the gap close. I think having extras or just cards you don’t want anymore, and wanting to sell them to fund others, is part of the hobby - and grading them to sell for next to nothing seems crazy, but so does waiting 12+ months to get them back from PSA for lower-end cards …
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Could also be they just don’t want to deal with PSA’s ridiculous wait times?
I get that some people on this forum own or flip so many cards, they can have cards at PSA for a year and not even miss them.
I think most people, outside of this community, would think it’s ridiculous that people throw their stuff at a company to stash away for over a year before providing the service paid for.
I mean depending on the card I would wait six months when you’re looking at possibly thousands of dollars difference, but I do see your point. PSA definitely does have a backlog issue that they need to figure out, but I still maintain that with the influx of new people into the hobby that inferring a BGS/CGC 9.5 = PSA 10 on listings or in other venues is misleading.
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While I agree with the sentiment behind this in a vacuum, in practice, it is often difficult to discern the quality of a card, the minor imperfections, from a few pictures online. This is part of the reason why grading companies provide such a useful service in standardizing measurements of quality and providing a measure of quality of the card that can be assessed by just glancing at the label (assuming one trusts the grades assigned by a grading company).
I don’t mean to be pedantic here; I just generally disagree with the idea that there is some superiority to purchasing the card over the grade in most online purchasing situations. In practice, purchasing a grade can be very useful in situations when there are inadequate photos or lighting, and also makes reselling in the future (if one wants to do this) easier as well.
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Recently made my first sub to BGS and I am waiting for my first CGC sub to return. I won’t be making any comparisons between companies until I have the different slabs in hand.
I noticed in her video she doesn’t show any BGS or CGC slabs but I only quickly skimmed. I feel like if you’re making these comparisons when you are only looking at 1/3rd of the picture your opinion is pretty null.
Knowledge is what is going to bring people success in this hobby.
I get what you’re saying but as a buyer you don’t have to buy a card if it pops up for sale. If the pictures aren’t clear, simply ask for better ones. If the seller doesn’t provide them, assume the card isn’t worth the grade.
As I mentioned in another post here, the grade label itself provides a great way of narrowing down the search for mint cards, but you should never buy anything you’re not confident about.
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I think the best way to answer this question is to consistently grade cards from different eras for yourself across various submissions. If you do 100+ through each grading service you might get a good idea, but that speaks to larger issue. A lot of people in the hobby who make claims about one grading service over another have probably graded less than 30 cards combined themselves. That’s not enough to give an educated answer.
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And how is this different from all the crap and misinformation most poketubers spread?
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Talking nonsense about prices, card rarity and PSA 10 prices on each booster opening