Different sellers completely,also 5 years apart .one was an Australian seller off poke beach. The other was a seller I was lead to from an individual I purchased topps pokemon sheets from and the seller he knew was located in Arizona.
I could see the co relation given the circumstances but I’m not so concerned with the foils as I am with the cards.
I’ve collected a ton of odd items over the years but also have an extensive collection of all the “mainstream” run of the mill stuff I’m sure we all have or had at one point.
I have good enough reason and evidence that those wrappers are from the 1st edition shadowed print in an English variation that was never released (before someone calls bullshit go look it up it’s a real thing) premier pokemon has a sheet of them.
But I’d be happy to send you a single slice if you have the ability or means to get those tests done.
I think we all just want to provide our expert Input to help authenticate the items. If you were able to pick up items like this from two different sellers that is incredible. If they are authentic, you literally won the lottery twice. They could be incredibly important and priceless pieces of history or very good proxies.
I have cards from 2001 that seem legitimate, but are verifiably fake. People have been making high quality fakes for a very long time.
I went through my scans and there are many characteristics with the uncut wrappers that are not seen on any other print. I think the discos have a better chance of being legitimate than the wrappers do.
The discos have characteristics not seen on the CGC authenticated ones I own. They would have to be a test print coming from a secondary printer.
Both of these concerns make me side with them both being inauthentic until there is microscopic or elemental analysis to more closely confirm them with known valid samples.
I hear ya, but it’s not hitting a lottery twice. It’s buying things other people didn’t want to spend their money on.
The things we see that have value now had almost none 10-15 years ago.
You could grab uncut sheets 10 years ago in the hundred dollar range or cheaper.
And all those types of items were a relatively harder sale because binders with cards take up very little space compared to uncut sheets and chunky rolls.
Most people generally spent their money on raw cards, I’m not sure your age but I’m sure you’d know the hobby was nothing like it is now.
If you have a means to do the analysis on the foils I fully welcome it.
But I’m already certain they came from the same source as the 1st ed shadowed sheets.
(I didn’t just get foils from this seller, I purchased bulk sealed product as well in the deal that was all undoubtedly authentic)
I don’t doubt you’re an expert on all the known variations of packaging.
