Another good reason to not have a premature reaction to any sales you see posted on IG, eBay, or Fanatics. Just teeing things up to turn negative really, really quick
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move on if you’re just going to complain about recording these auctions.
My $12 CGC 9 Bugsy’s Yanma which went unpaid after 2 separate Fanatics auctions says otherwise.
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What is officially documented as policy, versus what actually happens are two completely different stories. Since you’re new around here, let me educate you that Fanatics is notorious for auctions being ran and then going unpaid. The whole needing a credit card on file is new as of today (October 5th). Even then that doesn’t matter, as someone can shill up an auction to the heavens, then not have a deep enough line of credit on their card to cover the purchase.
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Lol, literally none of this matters.
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Don’t appreciate the condescending tone. How do you know any sale ever was paid other than one you witnessed first hand? Feel like you complaining just to complain
if you going to be rage baited by this thread idc. I’m still going to update it
I guess I wonder why we’re doing this
A lot of experienced users have let you know your misunderstandings here. It’s not a coincidence, what they say is accurate. Contractually buyers have always been on the hook, but in reality people sometimes don’t pay and get away with it. That is disproportionately true for ultra high sales. Even with the new system, if you bid $8M on a credit card on file that has a $1000 limit, that sale isn’t going through.
In a similar post that was up recently, someone pointed out that Fanatics drops sales from the “sold” listings after a few weeks if the buyer hasn’t paid. So that’s one “layer” of verification. However there are still some shill schemes possible with FanCash where you don’t have to pay a buyer’s premium, as long as you’re going to spend the amount on other cards later anyway. Probably not for a 7-figure sale but who knows. And I’m sure there are other schemes that are just beyond what I can come up with on the fly. It would be worth waiting at least some time after each sale if you want your list to be reliable. Some of the card names are also in need of a rename to what they’re more commonly called.
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constructive feedback. Appreciated. I’ll add them as and when they finish. They will be highlighted yellow until they have been shown to be still sold after 1/2 weeks.
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You can’t be serious
Edit, just to give you some reference from personal experience. When i auctioned expensive cards, it would take up to 5 times relisting per card because people simply wouldn’t pay, 5 times in a row. That’s like usual default business. I’d celebrate if it took only one relisting.
all these “comps” are from shillwcc 
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Every pre-SWSH card is worth an Illustrator for those with enough willpower
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Now selling a B/W uncommon non holo Maractus. 5m minimum offer.
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As of this post, there are over 8.3 billion people worldwide. The fact that a collectible’s price or bidding activity looks extreme to one person doesn’t, by itself, establish that the bids are fake or shill bids.
Collectibles are markets. You only need a tiny fraction of the global population to have genuine demand for a particular item for prices to become extremely high. Even if only 0.001% of the world’s population were interested in a particular collectible, that’s still more than 83,000 potential people.
If there is actual evidence of shill bidding—linked accounts, coordinated bidding patterns, seller-controlled accounts, bids that are repeatedly retracted, or other demonstrable manipulation—then present that evidence. But “the price is too high, so the bids must be fake” isn’t an argument. It’s an assumption.
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Okay I’ll play along in this thought experiment, now let’s see how many people can actually casually afford to spend 7 figures on a collectible (assuming people don’t typically spend >10% of their net worth on a single collectible). Cause you can rule out 99.97% of the global populous for that reason alone. In 2023, there were 2.3 million deca-millionaires (Source). That 0.001% of 2.3 million is 23 people. 8 Figures in case of the Lugia hitting 10 million? Theres roughly 30K centi-millionaires (Source), 0.001% of that is 0.3.
People, myself included, have also already posted the evidence you ask for, with BIN’s being available at way, way lower prices. The prevalence of Fanatics removing fake bids also shows there is a lot of fake bidding going on. This too, has been documented in this thread. All you gotta do is scroll up a little.
If there is proof of Fanatics pulling bids on so many auctions, it sure makes all the other insane sales suspicious.
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