Logan Paul On Pokemon ... Shows Box

[boomersooner35]

This is just more wood to the fire! Makes me happy to see even more exposure to the hobby we all love so embrace it and do you

[zorloth]

@dok

I will probably get some salty replies but Logan and Gary V are literally doing what is called a pump and dump. In any legitimate market it would be known as fraud but in pokemon it is just morally a grey area but too many notable collectors are having their pockets lined in here so they are too busy kissing arse rather than calling it out.

The state of the hobby has become one of pure greed. The current state of the hobby has blind minions of Gary V who cant even name pokemon following his every word. Completely changing the fundamentals of what made this hobby healthy. It will also cost alot of uneducated collectors money who blindly follow the hype when we see a retrace of cards outside of the actual difficult ones to find.

I don’t know what is sadder, Logan and Gary V knowingly manipulating their audience for profit or the fact the top end of the pokemon community has sold itself out.

Also before any one says “im just jealous” my personal collection has well and truly benefited from this manipulation. But i just find the behaviour with in the hobby these days being exactly why most of the world is going to shit. Greed triumphs over morals any day it seems.

I don’t necessarily disagree with you on Gary V, but Logan does appear to have some amount of genuine interest in Pokemon. It’s not clear that he’s just in it to ‘pump and dump.’

With Gary V, it’s tougher to say. He doesn’t appear to have much, if any, genuine interest in or connection to Pokemon. He seems to view it mostly just as an investment vehicle. I do agree that his hyping up Pokemon cards as an investment is likely at least in part due to fact that it’s in his financial interest for the market to continue soaring. Still, the guy has a 160 million dollar net worth. I don’t think there’s enough upside for him to just ‘pump and dump.’ Like, it would be a significant time investment for a pretty meager profit. The guy mostly just seems to be interested the investment potential of alternative assets. I think that’s the primary motivator for him, though I could be wrong. I don’t believe you’re totally off-base. But I do think you’re being a bit too cynical.

[teraz]

@dok

I will probably get some salty replies but Logan and Gary V are literally doing what is called a pump and dump. In any legitimate market it would be known as fraud but in pokemon it is just morally a grey area but too many notable collectors are having their pockets lined in here so they are too busy kissing arse rather than calling it out.

The state of the hobby has become one of pure greed. The current state of the hobby has blind minions of Gary V who cant even name pokemon following his every word. Completely changing the fundamentals of what made this hobby healthy. It will also cost alot of uneducated collectors money who blindly follow the hype when we see a retrace of cards outside of the actual difficult ones to find.

I don’t know what is sadder, Logan and Gary V knowingly manipulating their audience for profit or the fact the top end of the pokemon community has sold itself out.

Also before any one says “im just jealous” my personal collection has well and truly benefited from this manipulation. But i just find the behaviour with in the hobby these days being exactly why most of the world is going to shit. Greed triumphs over morals any day it seems.

Difficult to say their long term intentions. Pump and dump is just another way to say vocal flippers, and I don’t think you can gauge that that’s what they’re doing quite yet.

Regardless, overall I think you are overestimating their influence and ability to manipulate the market and are underestimating the amount of genuine interest in the collecting side of the hobby.

Saying “the state of the hobby has become one of pure greed” is quite frankly a cynical, tunnel visioned perspective that I don’t think has any verifiable merit. The reality is most people in this hobby really, actually like Pokemon. There are some who could care less about the cards and only care about the money, but a majority of people in this hobby have at least some degree of core interest.

[jcincy101]

@dok

I will probably get some salty replies but Logan and Gary V are literally doing what is called a pump and dump. In any legitimate market it would be known as fraud but in pokemon it is just morally a grey area but too many notable collectors are having their pockets lined in here so they are too busy kissing arse rather than calling it out.

The state of the hobby has become one of pure greed. The current state of the hobby has blind minions of Gary V who cant even name pokemon following his every word. Completely changing the fundamentals of what made this hobby healthy. It will also cost alot of uneducated collectors money who blindly follow the hype when we see a retrace of cards outside of the actual difficult ones to find.

I don’t know what is sadder, Logan and Gary V knowingly manipulating their audience for profit or the fact the top end of the pokemon community has sold itself out.

Also before any one says “im just jealous” my personal collection has well and truly benefited from this manipulation. But i just find the behaviour with in the hobby these days being exactly why most of the world is going to shit. Greed triumphs over morals any day it seems.

I’ve watched a couple Gary Vee videos and in the few I’ve watched, he has said that he has not sold a single on of his cards. Can you show me evidence he is dumping or has in the past 3 or so years he has been back into cards? I guess he could be lying but again seems to be just uninformed hate on certain personalities.

[fresco]

@gemmintpokemon

@KingPokemon

You’re sure about that? I’ve been active forever and I don’t know any (I only have 9). I’ve never met anybody who held on to two.

The market is much larger than e4 and Pokemon has been around for a long time. I’m not going into any details due to privacy commitments I’ve made. Verified in Q3 2020, 9 would not be the most in a single collection. Provenance exists. These are not fakes from California or Canada. The owner is not on e4.

It is indeed, people here usually mock you if you say stuff like this, The market is something global, its only US but i do understand people speaking from experience to what’s close to them.

[hisoka107]

@dok

I will probably get some salty replies but Logan and Gary V are literally doing what is called a pump and dump. In any legitimate market it would be known as fraud but in pokemon it is just morally a grey area but too many notable collectors are having their pockets lined in here so they are too busy kissing arse rather than calling it out.

The state of the hobby has become one of pure greed. The current state of the hobby has blind minions of Gary V who cant even name pokemon following his every word. Completely changing the fundamentals of what made this hobby healthy. It will also cost alot of uneducated collectors money who blindly follow the hype when we see a retrace of cards outside of the actual difficult ones to find.

I don’t know what is sadder, Logan and Gary V knowingly manipulating their audience for profit or the fact the top end of the pokemon community has sold itself out.

Also before any one says “im just jealous” my personal collection has well and truly benefited from this manipulation. But i just find the behaviour with in the hobby these days being exactly why most of the world is going to shit. Greed triumphs over morals any day it seems.

You don’t have to worry about me, I’ve already sold out haha.

[dragoniteman]

@dok

I will probably get some salty replies but Logan and Gary V are literally doing what is called a pump and dump. In any legitimate market it would be known as fraud but in pokemon it is just morally a grey area but too many notable collectors are having their pockets lined in here so they are too busy kissing arse rather than calling it out.

The state of the hobby has become one of pure greed. The current state of the hobby has blind minions of Gary V who cant even name pokemon following his every word. Completely changing the fundamentals of what made this hobby healthy. It will also cost alot of uneducated collectors money who blindly follow the hype when we see a retrace of cards outside of the actual difficult ones to find.

I don’t know what is sadder, Logan and Gary V knowingly manipulating their audience for profit or the fact the top end of the pokemon community has sold itself out.

Also before any one says “im just jealous” my personal collection has well and truly benefited from this manipulation. But i just find the behaviour with in the hobby these days being exactly why most of the world is going to shit. Greed triumphs over morals any day it seems.

Logan and Gary V are so damn rich I don’t think it even benefits them to pump and dump… so yeah I don’t think that’s what’s happening here lol

[smpikachuuu]

@dragoniteman

@dok

I will probably get some salty replies but Logan and Gary V are literally doing what is called a pump and dump. In any legitimate market it would be known as fraud but in pokemon it is just morally a grey area but too many notable collectors are having their pockets lined in here so they are too busy kissing arse rather than calling it out.

The state of the hobby has become one of pure greed. The current state of the hobby has blind minions of Gary V who cant even name pokemon following his every word. Completely changing the fundamentals of what made this hobby healthy. It will also cost alot of uneducated collectors money who blindly follow the hype when we see a retrace of cards outside of the actual difficult ones to find.

I don’t know what is sadder, Logan and Gary V knowingly manipulating their audience for profit or the fact the top end of the pokemon community has sold itself out.

Also before any one says “im just jealous” my personal collection has well and truly benefited from this manipulation. But i just find the behaviour with in the hobby these days being exactly why most of the world is going to shit. Greed triumphs over morals any day it seems.

Logan and Gary V are so damn rich I don’t think it even benefits them to pump and dump… so yeah I don’t think that’s what’s happening here lol

no its a big conspiracy stop…clearly they’ve been coordinating an enormous pump and dump strategy and plan to execute soon…

[smpikachuuu]

jfc it’s 2nd on YouTube trending

[dragoniteman]

@smpikachuuu

jfc it’s 2nd on YouTube trending

Magnificent it truly is a well edited video.

[smpratte]

@dok

I will probably get some salty replies but Logan and Gary V are literally doing what is called a pump and dump. In any legitimate market it would be known as fraud but in pokemon it is just morally a grey area but too many notable collectors are having their pockets lined in here so they are too busy kissing arse rather than calling it out.

The state of the hobby has become one of pure greed. The current state of the hobby has blind minions of Gary V who cant even name pokemon following his every word. Completely changing the fundamentals of what made this hobby healthy. It will also cost alot of uneducated collectors money who blindly follow the hype when we see a retrace of cards outside of the actual difficult ones to find.

I don’t know what is sadder, Logan and Gary V knowingly manipulating their audience for profit or the fact the top end of the pokemon community has sold itself out.

Also before any one says “im just jealous” my personal collection has well and truly benefited from this manipulation. But i just find the behaviour with in the hobby these days being exactly why most of the world is going to shit. Greed triumphs over morals any day it seems.

“Hello Police, Logan Paul made a video on pokemon and I don’t like it”.

[yz2428]

man, he did an amazing job explaining the 1st edition, shadowless, and unlimited variants. the best i’ve seen - easy to digest. sweet graphics. makes a difference when you get professionals doing it.

i also enjoyed the ref to leonhart’s 1st ed charizard pull…

[yz2428]

@smpikachuuu

jfc it’s 2nd on YouTube trending

this is THE pokemon event of 2020.

[yz2428]

also, he got a good pick-up for 50k on those cards from our very own collectibles_guru:
PSA 9 1st ed charizard
PSA 9 1st ed blastoise
PSA 10 1st ed gyarados
PSA 10 1st ed alakazam
PSA 10 shadowless venusaur
PSA 9 1st ed raichu
BGS 9 1st ed chansey
PSA 10 shadowless blastoise

[fazool]

@dragoniteman

@dok

I will probably get some salty replies but Logan and Gary V are literally doing what is called a pump and dump. In any legitimate market it would be known as fraud but in pokemon it is just morally a grey area but too many notable collectors are having their pockets lined in here so they are too busy kissing arse rather than calling it out.

The state of the hobby has become one of pure greed. The current state of the hobby has blind minions of Gary V who cant even name pokemon following his every word. Completely changing the fundamentals of what made this hobby healthy. It will also cost alot of uneducated collectors money who blindly follow the hype when we see a retrace of cards outside of the actual difficult ones to find.

I don’t know what is sadder, Logan and Gary V knowingly manipulating their audience for profit or the fact the top end of the pokemon community has sold itself out.

Also before any one says “im just jealous” my personal collection has well and truly benefited from this manipulation. But i just find the behaviour with in the hobby these days being exactly why most of the world is going to shit. Greed triumphs over morals any day it seems.

Logan and Gary V are so damn rich I don’t think it even benefits them to pump and dump… so yeah I don’t think that’s what’s happening here lol

Ah yes. Rich people always act ethically. They also feel they have enough money and are happy throwing it around. They don’t put an enormous amount of effort to grow and hold their wealth. Doesn’t feel like you have much experience with rich people

not saying this is a pump and dump, but it is a silly statement to say that anyone is so damn rich they wouldn’t want to make more money

[teraz]

@smpikachuuu

jfc it’s 2nd on YouTube trending

Really interesting to read through the comments. Such a range of opinions, but the most intriguing thing is how many people indicated that they have old Pokémon cards and had no idea they were worth anything.

When you’re in this hobby you sort of just assume anyone with a collection has their ear to the ground, but I’m realizing just how many thousands of people have no idea what they have.

[smpikachuuu]

@fazool

@dragoniteman

Logan and Gary V are so damn rich I don’t think it even benefits them to pump and dump… so yeah I don’t think that’s what’s happening here lol

Ah yes. Rich people always act ethically. They also feel they have enough money and are happy throwing it around. They don’t put an enormous amount of effort to grow and hold their wealth. Doesn’t feel like you have much experience with rich people

not saying this is a pump and dump, but it is a silly statement to say that anyone is so damn rich they wouldn’t want to make more money

yeah the being rich = u can do whatever you want comments i’m seeing here are kinda bothering me. i definitely agree that the idea that gary v and logan paul are executing a pump and dump has been backed up with no evidence, but i’m not sure the reason we should call that statement silly is because ‘its their money & and they can do whatever they want.’

[yz2428]

the only problem is that the packs are 11k each…

[dragoniteman]

@fazool

@dragoniteman

Logan and Gary V are so damn rich I don’t think it even benefits them to pump and dump… so yeah I don’t think that’s what’s happening here lol

Ah yes. Rich people always act ethically. They also feel they have enough money and are happy throwing it around. They don’t put an enormous amount of effort to grow and hold their wealth. Doesn’t feel like you have much experience with rich people

not saying this is a pump and dump, but it is a silly statement to say that anyone is so damn rich they wouldn’t want to make more money

Thats a fair point, but I think people are getting into conspiracy theory territory with a lot of this stuff calling them pump and dumpers, I am just saying what do they really have to gain at the end of the day from all of this when they could easily make more money elsewhere.

[frostyalpaca]

@teraz

Really interesting to read through the comments. Such a range of opinions, but the most intriguing thing is how many people indicated that they have old Pokémon cards and had no idea they were worth anything.

When you’re in this hobby you sort of just assume anyone with a collection has their ear to the ground, but I’m realizing just how many thousands of people have no idea what they have.

Really good point, I totally expect this to pull out boxes/cards that would have never been graded/sold to come out of the wood works. Whether that will off set increased demand? I doubt it.