Jungle and Fossil PSA 10 1st edition prices?

Keep a list of people that crack and resubmit and never buy or trade with them again. It’s flat out stealing. You’ll be paying a 10 price for a card deemed a 9 by a professional grader.

Not sure how you could comprise this list, when I sell or trade lower value cards, I don’t ask what they will do with them, pretty much impossible to know.

I have a booster fresh jungle venomoth Holo no symbol error if anyone is interested, message if you wish to trade

I think there are lots of people interested, but I’d keep trade options and requests in the buy/trade section to avoid threads trailing off subject.

The one thing I don’t think people understand when they crack a case and resubmit is they are throwing the whole PSA population off sync. If you regrade a card and they change it, the population changes and therefore there is no discrepancy. When you crack and resub, they have no idea it use to be a 9 and even if it grades a 9 again, they don’t know it was a previous card. I gurantee there is a very large amount of 1st edition zard’s that actually have multiple pop numbers for one specific card. That process irks me.

1 Like

The ones I have have literally just been pulled from packs, I also have a Vaporeon but that is going straight to PSA due to its quality for such a low pop card in a 10!

Bud, you’re way off topic and in the wrong section. Make a new thread in the correct section and please stop derailing this thread for your personal reasons.

Can’t give away all my secrets but it’s quite easy. Most experienced collectors here would know how to comprise a list.

Very well put…

I understand that it’s not cool to throw off PSA values. With that said, how is it stealing? It was deemed a 9 by one professional grader and 10 by another. People on here send cards for regrading all of the time. Would I be stealing if I sent in a 9 that I thought deserved a 10, it got graded a 10, and I sold it?

There are so many variables that could change a card from 9 to 10 or vice versa. Even if the grader is having a bad day, that could inhibit him/her to affect the grade. When speaking of older cards, WOTC era, its very easy to determine a card’s strength in grading however someone who is knew in the PSA scene may have issues with grading a card from Expedition or EX from a new set that have so many color schemes or fonts bouncing all over the place. However the card is looked at by a minimum of 2 people before the grade is decided. For a small mark to change a grade from a 10 to a 9 is very hard to be overlooked. Sending a card to be regraded doesn’t automatically guarantee them an upgrade on in very specific scenarios would it work, and these are the scenarios that it should be only used for. Buying up a lot of PSA 9’s and continuously sending them over and over is very unethical to me, as all a grader would need to do if they keep the database, is look up why it was sent in before over and over and find the previous graders notes, now they can use that info to make their decision. If this data is actually kept at PSA, then in all reality a card should never be sent in more than once for regrading as its now been looked at by 4 graders at different times and if there was someone trying to disguise a mark, there would be no possible way to swing it. In your example of sending in a 9 and it getting regraded a 10, in a wild play like this, the two current graders would need to find some possible way that 9 was actually graded a 9 and that the two previous graders should not have graded one silvering mark or a factory edge so hard. People will tell you about that one crazy time something got regraded, but will never tell you how many attempts they made to get it regraded. PSA won’t lean towards giving that grade for someone who has spent 20 submissions sending the same card in to be regraded over and over. Besides that one regrade, that in a crazy scenario they missed something, I don’t think people should be sending over and over. These are professionals and because they find a factory line that a non trained eye could not, its not just to crack and resub or resubmit over and over. Once again these are just my own opinions after years of grading and watching the market move.

#itsnotjustthebackofthecardthatmatters

Now it brings us to the idea of cracking cases. Most unethical of all it completely throws the PSA market for a loop as talked about before. Let’s say someone wanted to really mess up the system, they could continuously crack and resubmit the same card, lets say a card that was only released in a pop of 3. What happens if they resubmit the ungraded card they cracked open 4 times? Sure one person cannot truly throw off the market but take 10 people who crack and resub a low pop item, its way off basis and nothing can be done to fix it.