Is it fake or not Venusaur Base set First edition

Hi all I was wondering if this card is fake or not as I am thinking of buying/trading it thanks



Very fake. Font is incorrect, holo is wrong, and the color is washed out.

14 Likes

Thanks :folded_hands:

1 Like

Charizard is too

5 Likes

Assume that whole binder is

2 Likes

Thanks it’s not mine was going to trade been a while out of the collection now getting back at it thanks :blush:

2 Likes

Sometimes I wish 1st edition base had this shadow like the other wotc sets. Would all fit together so much better!

It’s fake, I’ll show you a comparison to a scan from tcgplayer as they usually have good scans of the cards:

Here’s the tcgplayer scan

Keep in mind that lighting can be different so you can’t always take shading into detail but I can tell you riht now that card is a little high in saturation to be real, there are exceptions for saturation especially for base set shadowless cards, if you want more information about it here’s a good thread explaining that Deep saturation in base set holos - Ruby Red Charizard

First thing that looks off as you look at the card from the top down is that all of the top and bottom borders are both extremely thick,
image
image

Most standard size cards have around the same border size give or take a little, but the general rule of thumb with these is if one border is bigger then the average size the other side will be smaller, this graded mewtwo presents this example well,

The next thing that is noticable is that the holofoil pattern has this very fake starry look that a lot of base fakes have it’s very 2d


Here’s the scan from tcgplayer of the same spot, scans can be a little off though so you might want to look up a video of someone holding a authentic on then compare it to your own footage
image
The venusaur that is fake has a to many stars showing up clearly and the stars don’t have much of a shine to them

Another thing that catches the eye is how the fake one seems to still have a shadow compared to the tcgplayer scan of a real one


You can see on the right that there is no shadow as there should be

On the fake there is clearly a little shadow there similar to an unlimited version but it is slightly off

There are all sorts of spacing and problems with fonts in the text, there are a ton more then the two I listed below if you want to find them yourself, just compare it to a real one and there’s plenty to find
image
Fake^
image
Real^

image

Fake^
image
Real^

Something that fakes often mess up on is the energy, they often don’t shade them in this venusaur it gives a perfect example in the retreat cost

image
Fake^
image
Real^

We’ll move on from the front, it looks like you are trying to take a picture of the side with the black layer that people often use to validate their english cards, this is also where the rip/peel test came from but you can see the line if you look close enough

It’s usually hard to see but if you compare a real and fake card right next to eachother it’s very apparent that it’s there
(Sidenote, Japanese doesn’t have the same printing as english so they don’t have a black layer like english cards do)

It’s hard to pick up on camera but in real life a authentic card will look grayish from the side while a fake will most likely look white, if you look really close you can see the line

This back looks extremely glossy

I’m assuming it feels glossy in real life, most english pokemon cards have identical backs so you can grab a common energy from a modern pack and compare the backs, you should be able to tell the differences.

13 Likes

Thanks a lot really appreciated for the detail information :smiling_face::folded_hands:

1 Like

No problem, happy to assist:) Welcome to the forum, if you have any more questions I’m sure that someone in here can answer it for you